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  1. Lloyd_Christmas

    Lloyd_Christmas I can delete my own crap! PatsFans.com Supporter

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    According to Mitch Smith (I bet he's a Jet fan), Jets should be given the win on that game.

    http://www.kansascity.com/236/story/282171.html

    He make the usual idiotic points that BB and Kraft are rich, so the money is hardly a penalty (I bet none of these writers making $50K a year would want to give up a 1000 bucks though, would they?)

    His second idiotic point is that since the Pats have such great players, the 1st round draft pick penalty won't be felt for years, if ever. So because the Patriots did a good job drafting and picking up guys in FA and training and forming a team, we should get penalized more than if the Raiders did it.

    His grand finale is that the Jets-Pats game should be overturned, giving the Jets the win.

    (Mods: There wasns't a 9/20 media sticky or I would have put this there)
     
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    Lmao.... someone sounds jealous...

    Unless it was prove that they cheated during THAT game, then they shouldnt have to forfeit... :rolleyes:

    *sigh* this is getting tiring....

    I thought that it may die down after the Chargers whooping....
     
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    At least this writer is a junior in High School who won their TeenStar thingy.

    What do the other national writers have as an excuse?
     
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    Another obscure writer trying to get noticed by being dramtic.
     
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    and being dumb!!
     
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    He must not of heard that it had no affect on that game. Why should the Jets get a win for something that had nothing to do with the outcome. They didn't overturn the miami game we lost where they had our audio. That did effect the outcome of that game. Christ, we'll be hearing about this forever just like the tuck game.
     
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    Why not have the Pats forfeit both games to the Jets? This

    way the Jets would win at least two games this season.
     
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    Putting aside the fact that it is a completely rediculous notion of over turning a game that was so one sided due to such a lame violation. Can you imagine the ramifications at the end of the season if the Jets made the playoffs over another team that actually won games based upon a commisioner over turning a result from a played game.
     
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    I think Goodell might have considered a forfeit as punishment had

    the score not been 7-7 at the time the camera was confiscated.

    This would have been an early Xmas present for his former employer.
     
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    There will be no overturn of any game except under extreme circumstances in any pro sport...period. It doesn't matter who the team is.

    Las Vegas would go up in flames if that happened and don't think for a minute that Las Vegas doesn't matter. Think about the bets that have been placed and paid out. How do you collect that money? What about people who are now going to show up demanding their money that took the points and the Jets.

    It won't happen people. These sportswriters know this too. They are just trying to make a name by piling on.
     
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    Never going to happen...Who would ever bet on sports if outcomes were over turned.
     
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    People keep saying this but fact is it wouldn't affect Las Vegas sportsbooks one bit. They pay wagers based on the on-field results and, for betting purposes, an after-the-fact forfeit does not invalidate the previous results.

    College sports have had after-the-fact forfeits before and nobody burned down Las Vegas.
     
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    I disagree. That might be true for illegal activity but there would be law suits in Nevada and every other place that betting was legal. I don't know what the laws are in this case but I'll bet they would be challenged.

    Which games in college have been forfeited BTW? I'm not challenging you, I just don't remember any.
     
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    Any lawsuit filed would be dismissed in 3 seconds. The rules are quite clear: An after-the-fact forfeit does not affect payment of the wagers. The Commissioner could declare a Patriots forfeit today and tomorrow you would still be able to collect if you had a wagering ticket for the Patriots over the Jets.

    With all due respect, don't you think the sportsbooks have actually thought of the fact that such a thing could one day happen..? And that they have established rules governing the consequences of a forfeit...? As I said before, forfeits have happened before in the college ranks, and it did not affect the sportsbooks one bit. Even a gambling scandal would not affect games and payments already decided.
    Well the first one that comes to mind is UMass being forced to forfeit their Final Four run from about 10 years ago... Southen Methodist University, I believe, had to forfeit games when they received the NCAA "death penalty" in the late 80's... Just recently, the University of Oklahoma had to forfeit their entire 2005 season or something like that...
     
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