bostonia3333
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Beating DEN or GB is all I care about---you can pad your stats against the Vikes and Raider and everything looks great. I could see Arodg dropping 50 against this "no. 1 pass D" Guys like Chandler Jones tend to disappear against good teams.
To the people a couple of years ago that were screaming "points!!!!!" in thread after thread when discussing the defense: This is what a good pass defense looks like.
Do you feel YPG or PPG is a better measurement of a defense?
Don't feed the trolls.You think the packers will score 50 on us?
My measurement for a defense:
1. PPG
2. Turnovers
3. YPG
4. Opposing quarterback rating
All of those should be taken into account when rating a defense.
I think yards per attempt and yards per carry are more useful than total YPG. A team can throw the ball a lot, especially when way behind, and rack up some yards, but if their yards per attempt is low then they will be very inefficient and moving the ball. The Pats rank among the league leaders in this category through 2 games, allowing under 5 YPA (332 yards in 68 attempts). In 2013 we allowed an average of 7 YPA; 7.7 YPA in 2012 and 8 YPA in 2011 were similarly near the bottom of the league.
An obscure stat that is a really good gauge of a defense's effectiveness is the amount of negative pass plays. Add up incompletions, sacks and ints. When the other team has a high number of those, your D is usually playing very well.I think yards per attempt and yards per carry are more useful than total YPG. A team can throw the ball a lot, especially when way behind, and rack up some yards, but if their yards per attempt is low then they will be very inefficient and moving the ball. The Pats rank among the league leaders in this category through 2 games, allowing under 5 YPA (332 yards in 68 attempts). In 2013 we allowed an average of 7 YPA; 7.7 YPA in 2012 and 8 YPA in 2011 were similarly near the bottom of the league.
Although it's not the way I've personally rated defenses, I don't have a problem with that. My general problem was with cherry picking the statistical catagories to make the defense seem better than it was when all of them should be taken into account. Those four are just what I personally look at (in that order) when rating a defense.
Play around with this chart in the passing defense section. 2012. The Patriots sucked by any measure.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2012/opp.htm
I like Net Yards Per Pass Attempt. Stay under 6.0 and you have a solid to excellent pass defense.
This wasn't really directed at me but I personally wouldn't feel comfortable with only using one or the other....or even really trying to put one over the other. I mean I guess in the end they decide the game based on "points", but to give a good evaluation of a defense I think you need both of these, as well as other stats. Turnovers forced, Third down conversion rates, Red Zone conversion rates, Negative pass plays (the obscure stat mentioned above), Opposing QB rating, etc.Do you feel YPG or PPG is a better measurement of a defense?