drewdagreat
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He's just not a 3-4 LB, but he's insanely talented
Brady'sButtBoy said:I've been thinking about starting a thread on this idea of value, especially later in the draft, but I'll start here by saying we need STARS, and preferrably: SUPER STARS.
If Tye Hill is going to be a superstar isn't he worth giving up a second rounder to go get (the fifth rounder is nearly immaterial in most drafts)? We win because we have, or had, Brady, Seymour, Bruschi, Harrison, Dillon, Branch, Vrabel, Law and some very near stars in Givens (getting $5mil/yr validates your star status) Mankins, Watson, Warren, Colvin; not because of some alleged secret formula BB uses to conjure up the 'right' players from later rounds.
Every move is made in hopes the player you draft will become a star. Prime Example - would Brady have been much use in getting to 3 SB's if he had only become a serviceable backup who perfectly fit the Pat's offense style?
The only other thing you hope for in the draft is to get guys good enough to be coached into filling the blanks around the stars well enough to keep your team from constantly having bring in expensive FA's.
People, we won with Troy Brown at CB, why? Because the stars like Bruschi and Seymour, Vrabel and Harrison, McGinest and Colvin and Warren ravaged the opposition so throughly that it really didn't much who else was out there, not becuase Troy Brown suddenly could play like Ty Law.
Every team needs more stars, if BB says Hill will be one, then he's worth price.
So then why do you want Tye Hill? We still have Troy Brown, and as you say, it doesn't matter who we have guarding WRs, as long as our DL and LB are beating up on their OL, RBs, and TEs.Brady'sButtBoy said:People, we won with Troy Brown at CB, why? Because the stars like Bruschi and Seymour, Vrabel and Harrison, McGinest and Colvin and Warren ravaged the opposition so throughly that it really didn't much who else was out there, not becuase Troy Brown suddenly could play like Ty Law.
BelichickFan said:Those names don't excite me to move up to #13.
pats1 said:2 days, 18 hours, 55 minutes until the draft.
Good Lord, I'm tired of these rumors!
pats1 said:2 days, 18 hours, 55 minutes until the draft.
Good Lord, I'm tired of these rumors!
I am not exactly sure what you are asking, but next year if the top junior prospects come out, at RB could be Adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, Brian Leonard, and Michael Bush, 4 prospects that would seem to fit our system very well. There also would be a ton of WR.the taildragger said:Slightly OT question for any readers of this thread (don't want to start a new one) -- Does anyone have an educated idea of the consensus for next year's draft with respect to our key areas of need (quality, depth, etc..) ???-- this is obviously something our Front Office is considering -- not that Kiper has a clue -- I've never once heard that guy address next year's draft, cap flexibility, or free agency options with respect to a team's draft strategy -- that's the problem with a guy who doesn't have to actually spend $$.
nickw308810 said:I am not exactly sure what you are asking, but next year if the top junior prospects come out, at RB could be Adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, Brian Leonard, and Michael Bush, 4 prospects that would seem to fit our system very well. There also would be a ton of WR.
Brady'sButtBoy said:I've been thinking about starting a thread on this idea of value, especially later in the draft, but I'll start here by saying we need STARS, and preferrably: SUPER STARS.
If Tye Hill is going to be a superstar isn't he worth giving up a second rounder to go get (the fifth rounder is nearly immaterial in most drafts)? We win because we have, or had, Brady, Seymour, Bruschi, Harrison, Dillon, Branch, Vrabel, Law and some very near stars in Givens (getting $5mil/yr validates your star status) Mankins, Watson, Warren, Colvin; not because of some alleged secret formula BB uses to conjure up the 'right' players from later rounds.
Every move is made in hopes the player you draft will become a star. Prime Example - would Brady have been much use in getting to 3 SB's if he had only become a serviceable backup who perfectly fit the Pat's offense style?
The only other thing you hope for in the draft is to get guys good enough to be coached into filling the blanks around the stars well enough to keep your team from constantly having bring in expensive FA's.
People, we won with Troy Brown at CB, why? Because the stars like Bruschi and Seymour, Vrabel and Harrison, McGinest and Colvin and Warren ravaged the opposition so throughly that it really didn't much who else was out there, not becuase Troy Brown suddenly could play like Ty Law.
Every team needs more stars, if BB says Hill will be one, then he's worth price.
SamBamsFan said:From Espn. com
There is also a rumor floating around that the Patriots (No. 21) have interest in moving up to the Ravens' spot at No. 13. One report has New England doing so for Florida receiver Chad Jackson, but that's not coach Bill Belichick's style. If the team does move up, it's more likely to be in pursuit of linebackers Kamerion Wimbley (Florida State), Ernie Sims (Florida State) or Chad Greenway (Iowa).
Sims?
I just report the rumors so don't shot the messenger.
Brady'sButtBoy said:I've been thinking about starting a thread on this idea of value, especially later in the draft, but I'll start here by saying we need STARS, and preferrably: SUPER STARS.
If Tye Hill is going to be a superstar isn't he worth giving up a second rounder to go get (the fifth rounder is nearly immaterial in most drafts)? We win because we have, or had, Brady, Seymour, Bruschi, Harrison, Dillon, Branch, Vrabel, Law and some very near stars in Givens (getting $5mil/yr validates your star status) Mankins, Watson, Warren, Colvin; not because of some alleged secret formula BB uses to conjure up the 'right' players from later rounds.
Every move is made in hopes the player you draft will become a star. Prime Example - would Brady have been much use in getting to 3 SB's if he had only become a serviceable backup who perfectly fit the Pat's offense style?
The only other thing you hope for in the draft is to get guys good enough to be coached into filling the blanks around the stars well enough to keep your team from constantly having bring in expensive FA's.
People, we won with Troy Brown at CB, why? Because the stars like Bruschi and Seymour, Vrabel and Harrison, McGinest and Colvin and Warren ravaged the opposition so throughly that it really didn't much who else was out there, not becuase Troy Brown suddenly could play like Ty Law.
Every team needs more stars, if BB says Hill will be one, then he's worth price.