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    Giardi posted this on his twitter:

    Michael Giardi (MikeGiardi) on Twitter


    The question is what is big money? I think the Pats if they think he is good fit should pay for him, but only to a point. He is still a player in his early 30s who has already considered retirement. If he is looking for ridiculous money, I think they should pass. If he is looking for good money, but nothing way out of whack then they should jump into the mix.
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    Re: Patriots Have 'Strong Interest' in LB Schobel

    It's a tantalizing prospect and one that will certainly put our four man rush over the top, and with Cunningham in Elephant, has the potential to make our 4-3 very difficult to contain.

    I am sure that if we successfully obtain him, we would have to let Mankins go. If we break the bank for Schobel, I don't see how this will go over well with Mankins.
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    I'm not so sure I'd put a ton of stock in anything Mike Giardi claims he has sourced...
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    Who is Mike Giardi?
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    Let's see, the difference between an 8 million a year guard and the 5 guys on the roster and experienced guards available with every cutdown from other teams or...

    The difference between Schobel and increased playing time for Woods and Ninchovich.

    Sign the beast.
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    Re: Patriots Have 'Strong Interest' in LB Schobel

    Mike Reiss linked to a blog by John McClain ( no, not the one from Die Hard) but a writer for a Houston newspaper who covers the Texans who opined that after paying Andre Johnson with a new contract that is worth $23.5 million to max of $38 million, they may be over budget and only could pay $4 million, not the $8 million he would have earned in Buffalo.


    Should the Texans sign Schobel? | NFL | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle


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    Schobel won't get $8 million from the Texans. He might not get $4 million. But I'm sure they'll be fair and willing to give him a lot of incentives.<<<<
    ( I had to limit it to three sentences. If the guy wrote longer sentences, I could post more!!!)

    It's not mutually exclusive, getting paid and playing for a winner but sometimes you have to compromise. If he was just in it for the money, he would have played for $8 million in Buffalo this year. If he wants to play for a winner, he may have to compromise on the money. How much? That's an answer only he (or his agent) knows. If $4 million would solve the pass rush problems, sign him.
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    Re: Patriots Have 'Strong Interest' in LB Schobel

    If we could somehow get this and Mankins done that would be sweet.

    I'd offer Schobel big money on a short (2 years or so) deal.

    Mankins, I'd offer a nice contract but I'd make him play out his current deal this year; however I'd add SB incentives to his deal this year to give him good upside IF WE WIN BIG.
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    Is it anything more than speculation that he would insist on Houston? After all, we all know that Buffalo has degenerated into one of those hopeless franchises and Schobel is certainly aware that the Patriots run a first class operation, great coach and have been in contention every single year of this decade.

    Who is to say he wouldn't consider New England favorably without undue persuasion. Of course pass rushers of his caliber want to be compensated, is that a problem?

    Do we want to make an all or nothing gamble on Cunningham, like we did on AD Thomas, or let him make the position transition while picking up some moves from one of the best pass rushers in football?

    Not like we expected one of the top rushers in football to just drop into our laps when we once again were relying on wishful thinking to supply half the production from the position.
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    Depending on HIS definition of BIG MONEY, it's worth pursuing. Perhaps in the short run, it's worth some up front.

    It will be interesting to see how it develops.
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    Maybe there's a slight chance he'd like to stick it to the Bills somehow? What better way than playing them twice a year? Quick, get me his agents number, I have a deal to make...:D
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    I am not saying you give him what ever he wants but since this year is uncapped if you keep it to a one year deal this should have very little to no effect on Mankins and/or Brady's contract.

    How quick do you think the Mediots would change their opinions of this team if Brady, Mankins, and Schobel all got contracts in the next few days?
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    The Mediots' view wouldn't change one iota. Basically, they'd lambaste the Patriots for not getting the deals done before the start of training camp. (Even if, as in Schobel's case, it wasn't even possible in the first place.)

    And, failing that, they'd view the fact that the discussions took this long as signs of serious dissension between Brady and Kraft, rather than the realistic long-term issue of a cap-free year and CBA renegotiation clouding the current contract negotiations.
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    Pay the man, pay Mankins and apologize to him if needed, get the camp focused on the upcoming season, and put the best possible team on the field instead of screwing around.
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    "If needed" doesn't refer to that being a throwaway in the negotiations. It refers to doing what one should if one's been wrong. I'm not sure why you would find that amusing, but different strokes and all that.
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    I agree, I think if it was just about money, he'd have stayed with Buffalo. The question now is how important is playing near home (aka Houston) compared to playing for a winning team (us)?
    Also, if family is slightly more important, how much more money would it take to tip the scales towards playing for a winning team?
    Ideally I'd see us getting him for a 1 year deal of 4-6 million.
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    If they are really excited about the talent assembled in Foxboro (and they sure seem to be), inking all three would really prove they are serious about things this year. Deus, as a fan, I could not agree more - extend Brady, figure out how to make the cowboy happy and get Aaron in here..........it really is there for the taking. Come on Bob Kraft, step up and help BB to get his done.
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    Please Mr. Mankins, we're sorry for being such unscrupulous liars.

    If we get down on our knees will you take this truckload of long term cash to play the easiest position on the roster to fill, so we can send home this waiting room full of former starters willing to play for almost vet minimum, the three draft picks, and two vets we have been keeping or overpaying on our practice squad?

    Sure, we could use the money to pay one of the best pass rushers in football, but what impact would that have compared to a guard, the third most important position in the offensive line (out of 3)?
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