Welcome to PatsFans.com

Patriots GM on Panther board

Discussion in 'Patriots Draft Talk' started by PATSNUTme, Mar 2, 2011.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. PATSNUTme

    PATSNUTme Paranoid Homer Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2005
    Messages:
    15,331
    Likes Received:
    106
    Ratings:
    +270 / 2 / -1

    #75 Jersey

    I got the following PM from a Panther fan acting as the Patriots GM on their draft board. He wants to know our thoughts on what he has done so far.

    Remember, be kind and civil:

    I'm a panther fan but on our message board im the pats gm. what things would you guys like to see done in the draft?here is what i have done already

    free agent signings:
    DE Cullen Jenkins
    DT Marcus Thomas
    K Mason Crosby
    CB Chris Carr

    traded away DT Ron Brace, OLB Tully, and WR Julian Eledmen
    for OLB Marcus Benard and a 5th, RB Steve Slaton, and for WR Darrius Heyward- Bay. thanks in advanced.
     
  2. WhiZa

    WhiZa Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Messages:
    5,043
    Likes Received:
    3
    Ratings:
    +3 / 0 / -0

    sign Marcus Stroud
     
  3. bucky

    bucky 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    1,717
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    Wow! Just Wow!

    Here are the moves I would recommend:

    1. Release:
    DE Cullen Jenkins
    DT Marcus Thomas
    K Mason Crosby
    CB Chris Carr

    2. traded away OLB Marcus Benard and a 5th, RB Steve Slaton, WR Darrius Heyward- Bay for DT Ron Brace, OLB Tully, and WR Julian Eledmen.

    3. Quit your job as GM of the Patriots.
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2011
  4. A.C Vegas

    A.C Vegas In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2006
    Messages:
    2,166
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0 / -0

    #11 Jersey

    glad to know that this is not really going to happen but to give advice

    Pass Rush and OL.

    What i really really want to know is why the hell did they get a Kicker
     
  5. Dufflebagz

    Dufflebagz 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2010
    Messages:
    1,573
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    You don't want Cullen Jenkins?
     
  6. Clonamery

    Clonamery PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2005
    Messages:
    3,357
    Likes Received:
    42
    Ratings:
    +136 / 0 / -1

    Sounds like he's actually the real GM for the Panthers.
     
  7. Box_O_Rocks

    Box_O_Rocks PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2005
    Messages:
    20,550
    Likes Received:
    25
    Ratings:
    +25 / 0 / -0

    Sounds like he's one of the special fans who frequent the main forum.
     
  8. Ochmed Jones

    Ochmed Jones Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2004
    Messages:
    5,809
    Likes Received:
    19
    Ratings:
    +48 / 2 / -1

    #12 Jersey

    Two step plan of action, once the new CBA is signed:

    1.) If BB is successful in going up and trading for WR Green of Georgia, then I would trade Welker to Atlanta for a third in 2012, but add a conditional clause that if Atlanta wins for NFC championship next season, then it is upgraded to a second.

    2.) BB calls his dear old friend Al Davis in Oakland and consoles poor Al on losing Pro Bowler Nnamdi from his secondary, but because Al is a dear friend, BB offers Al a solution to Al's secondary problem; the services of pro bowler Merriweather for the meager price of a 2012 second round pick. BB instructs Al to just sign the papers that BB is faxing over and then to forward the papers to the NFL office in New York.

    In 2012 we start out with 1 first and 2 seconds and 2 third or 1 first and 3 seconds.
     
  9. Dufflebagz

    Dufflebagz 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2010
    Messages:
    1,573
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    1. Instead of Green I'd go with Jones and I'm pretty sure we could get more than a 2nd for Welker.

    2. Why is everyone so eager to get rid of Meriweather? But I have to admit the Raider's 2nd would be nice.
     
  10. Deus Irae

    Deus Irae PatsFans.com Retired Jersey Club PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2006
    Messages:
    43,723
    Likes Received:
    819
    Ratings:
    +2,895 / 161 / -104

    Disable Jersey

    I'm not seeing how this is of particular benefit to the Patriots.
     
  11. ctpatsfan77

    ctpatsfan77 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2005
    Messages:
    21,201
    Likes Received:
    390
    Ratings:
    +1,043 / 18 / -8

    #3 Jersey

    For far too many folks, it's about building a fantasy football/Madden team, not a real one.

    After all, I saw a group of Pats fans doing a mock offseason decide to offer a 1st+ for Merriman last year.
     
  12. jsull87

    jsull87 In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2008
    Messages:
    2,647
    Likes Received:
    40
    Ratings:
    +87 / 3 / -0

    thats true but you have to see what they are in their heads trading for.

    In their mind it's 1st+ for a dominant top 3 rusher in the league. Good deal for anyone really. If the guy is a 10-15 sack guy e.g ware

    In reality what you get is a washed up guy who was so good because he played on roids and no longer has any thing... therefore a bad trade
     
  13. ctpatsfan77

    ctpatsfan77 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2005
    Messages:
    21,201
    Likes Received:
    390
    Ratings:
    +1,043 / 18 / -8

    #3 Jersey

    Very true, but still, after the 2009 season, you have to wonder how it got in his head that "what Merriman needs is a change of scenery," and that Merriman was still worth a first (yeah, Moss yada yada yada, but it was only a fourth for Moss).
     
  14. FredFromDartmouth

    FredFromDartmouth In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2009
    Messages:
    2,052
    Likes Received:
    14
    Ratings:
    +62 / 11 / -41

    I love it when baseball guys try to project their trading mania to football....

    It is very hard to second guess the Patriots moves but it is sure fun to try....hey why didn't we get Julius Peppers...
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2011
  15. TriplecHamp

    TriplecHamp Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2009
    Messages:
    5,544
    Likes Received:
    64
    Ratings:
    +139 / 2 / -1

    #24 Jersey

    People need to calm down, its not that bad for a fan of another team tbh. He clearly is trying to address some of the holes that we have.
     
  16. Dufflebagz

    Dufflebagz 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2010
    Messages:
    1,573
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    It really isn't too bad....I would love to pick up Cullen Jenkins but signing Mason Crosby is a head scratcher and the trade is....not terrible, but I wanna hold on to Brace and Edelman.
     
  17. convertedpatsfan

    convertedpatsfan PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2009
    Messages:
    3,394
    Likes Received:
    83
    Ratings:
    +219 / 1 / -1

    #12 Jersey

    On the FA front, what values did we pay? I think that impacts the quality of some of those signings.

    As for the draft, first 3 picks should be a combination of DE, OLB, and OL.

    And see if we can trade a late 3rd (say 89th) for Carolina's 2nd next year (say 33). Carolina can use it on a QB they're trying to turn into a WR.
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2011
  18. Off The Grid

    Off The Grid Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2010
    Messages:
    6,704
    Likes Received:
    138
    Ratings:
    +305 / 5 / -0

    #3 Jersey

    You know I admire your work, Brother Jones, so I'm sure you'll take this in a respectfull context:

    1 ~ I think your proposal to effectively trade an early 2011 1st Rounder ~ the price for AJ Green ~ for a 2012 3rd Rounder ~ equivalent to a 2011 4th Rounder ~ in order to swap Wes Welker for AJ Green is an HORRIBLE mistake:

    A ~ You're Selling Low on Welker, one year after his Huge Injury: History tells as that most guys don't get back to True Form until their SECOND year back. And Welker is a FANATIC who is very likely, indeed, to rock back to his previously AMAZING form, next year, and sustain it for the next several years: A year from now, his Market Value is probably going to be about that of Brandon Marshall: Consecutive 2nd Rounders. And you want to trade him for the equivalent of a 4th?? :eek:

    B ~ It's VERY debatable whether Green would be an upgrade on Welker, in terms of winning Championships: Last year, if any example is really needed, illustrated, DRAMATICALLY, how much more effective our Offense was as soon as we dumped Mister Home Run Threat and concentrated on Moving The Chains. Green is a wonderfull talent, but his kind not only fail to Move The Chains, they Maddenize the Offensive Philosophy of the teams they join, which has proven, time and again, to be fatal to the Championship Quest, as every Pat fan ~ respectfully submitted, sir ~ ought realize.

    C ~ Have you considered what it would take to Trade Up to pick Green?? If he goes #5, for instance, that would take #17, #28, AND #92...No, SPANK you!! :eek:

    2 ~ Stomper for a 2012 Raider 2nd ~ the equivalent of a 2011 3rd??? ~ That would be HORRIBLE compensation for the guy. As Pat fans, we might be hyper critical of the guy, but the fact remains that he is young, healthy, HIGHLY talented, Strong AND Fast, and has TWO consecutive All Pro's under his belt. Considering that we raked the Saints for the equivalent of a 3rd, a 5th, AND a 7th for Tebucky Jones, bless his soul, I have to believe that ~ particularly in a year where there is an exceptionally weak Free Safety Class ~ we could get consecutive 2nd Rounders and CHANGE. :cool:
     
  19. IllegalContact

    IllegalContact Pro Bowl Player

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2010
    Messages:
    12,017
    Likes Received:
    244
    Ratings:
    +693 / 13 / -28

    by the sounds of that trade, he must be more of a basketball, baseball, or hockey fan.......they make those kinds of trade in those leagues, but not in the NFL
     
  20. DaBruinz

    DaBruinz Pats, B's, Sox PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2005
    Messages:
    24,531
    Likes Received:
    247
    Ratings:
    +530 / 47 / -48

    #50 Jersey

    The additions of Slaton, Bay and Benard are Meh. Benard strikes me as a 1-Gap pure pass rush specialist. I don't see how trading Edleman and adding Bay helps the Pats.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

unset ($sidebar_block_show); ?>