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    good stuff, thanks for posting, you're welcome for bumping.
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    I was hoping we had a promising punter in Perez (6th rated)

    but I guess not.
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    Great to read that stuff. :)

    Vollmer is my surprise player. I don't expect him to displace Kaczur barring injury, but if Kaczur gets dinged, Vollmer might go in and never look back.

    Love that Chung looks the part. Even though it's the first day, the guys who look like they get it usually tend to pan out. (Thinking back to Branch anyway ...)

    Stinks that Edelman sounds like a huge project, though guess that was expected. Maybe he can catch on as a pure return guy?

    Mixed news on Butler could be better, could be worse. :)
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    Has there been any audio/video yet of Chung or any of the other picks in interviews? I remember in previous years they had tele-conferences shortly after being picked, but I can't find anything like that yet.
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    Agreed - although Chad Jackson wowed them in shorts :(

    I expect him to be released and hopefully signed to the practice squad where he can try to develop his skills and help practice against the wildcat.
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    I should add to that, Jackson ended up being a bust because he was a dummy (and maybe the ACL tear slowed him down I don't know about that); from even the most negative reports about Chung, intelligence and desire will not be an issue so flashing solid athleticism is VERY encouraging with him because that's the only real question about him, how athletic he is.
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    Yeah the more I read about Chung, the more I love this kid. Heck, when I was doing pre-draft reading, he was my safety of choice for the simple fact he was starting at Oregon at 16. That is mental.
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    There were no comments on MacKenzie, but he liked what he saw.. would like to know more.
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    There's more on McKenzie here :

    Rookies arrive for first practices as pros

    "Third-round draft choice Tyrone McKenzie worked up a good sweat during the morning practice. He struggled a bit in pass coverage and a few times appeared to be taking his mistakes pretty hard. At one point, Belichick called McKenzie over to settle him down and, one assumes, offer the necessary guidance to fix whatever he was doing wrong. McKenzie seemed to perform better after the heart-to-heart with the head coach. McKenzie was more consistent in the second session on Friday."

    Doesn't say who wrote this, not sure if it's a synopsis by Hart and Perillo or others.
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    This guy is my second favorite draft pick after Chung. Hopefully he'll make a good 1-2 down combo to Guyton's third down. Of course, ideally he develops into a perfect 3-4 ILB. :)
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    Tryout WR #15 looked crisp in the brief glimpses I saw from the Patriots Now video clip.
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    Liked this pick from the beginning, will benefit from a consistent program and consistent coaching... he could be a real sleeper.
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    good stuff, yea, w/ the right coach we may make him something yet

    the news on butler is dissapointing, but hopefully it improves
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    It already has :

    "None of that was on display in the afternoon. He was in the receiver’s shirt on every play, had a terrific interception near the sideline and appeared to be the best athlete on the field. He didn’t get any chances to redeem himself as a punt returner, but his work at corner was eye-popping. So much so that I cast a skeptical eye toward Andy based on his early scouting report."
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    This I find to be good:
    I have sore spot for the long snapper Ingram(didn't think he should have been drafted) but this is encouraging, I'm hoping he keeps this up and does well in training camp with the competition with Hodel.
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    Man, it is hard not to be excited, but I keep remembering every draft pick we've fallen in love with because they beat out a UFA in shorts.

    It's just ANNOYING that I am getting more and more sure that Chung is Rodney but with super powers (based on his high draft status, the intensity you see in film -- primarily against guys who didn't make it into the NFL -- and writeups like this.)

    And it helps that he's stronger than a Rosie O'Donnell queef.

    In fact I'm completely convinced right now that we'll all be saying "oh yeah Mayo had an okay rookie season but nothing like Chung."

    Of course, it's ridiculously unwarranted and will slowly go away as he lines up against actual NFL talent.

    Unless it doesn't :) that would be so cool.

    ARRRGHHHHH it needs to be September NOW!

    PFnV
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    If we extrapolate this pace of improvement across the off-season, Butler should be ready for Canton by early August. :)
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    I am glad for Chung, Vollmer and the other guys that had a good day.

    I'm hoping Butler can catch on quickly. Hopefully once he gets it he will be an accelerated learner. I want him to succeed in a bad way. I must admit though,I wasn't too happy with the pick. Prove me wrong DB.
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    Maybe getting over excited ISN'T prudent... but it is encouraging that early reports weren't going to be a trend. To me, Butler is the main guy in the 09 draft. I am hoping he turns out to be a solid contributor sooner rather than later.
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    Look at all of the draft picks after Uhmbarger like they were Priority Free Agents. Who amongst us thought they would draft 11 players never mind 12? Bussey, Edelman, Pryor, Imgram, Richards were players they could take and not have to compete with other teams to sign as UnDrafted Free Agents.

    Draft Guys made the same comment that the Patriots wasted a draft pick on a LS. I totally disagree. I had Ingram pegged early on, but dropped him from my list of 11 because they signed Hodel. Wouldn't be surprised to see Hodel cut when the Pats need the roster spot for the start of training camp.
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    The sad thing is, I'm totally with you. All I can think about lately is how Chung is going to put teeth back into our defense and revitalize the middle. DROY for sure, right? I'm getting so caught up in this whole process, it's just laughable.
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    Butler wasn't my pick either. I personally would have preferred trading up to get Malcolm Jenkins at 14, followed by Chung (since Delmas was gone at 33) and then a certain TE/DE/OLB at 41. But now I hope Butler will end up being all world for us, and want him to catch on as soon as possible. Her certainly has the physical tools to succeed.
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    Going by the photos on Patriots.com, Vollmer is huge, the other linemen, both OL and DL, are close, but Ornberger is dwarfed.

    Plus Ornberger has a Homer Simpson build to him,yikes,,

    guess we will see in traing camp.
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    I see your point, the phrase "luxury picks" at work there. I was and probably still am not sure I'd take someone at a position that is already filled with a veteran when they could have taken someone at a more needed spot but his play is justifying the choice.
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