Alas...another publication with many facts has him 9th and the Packers first. Another has him 14th. These are more relevant because it is in the last five years. I guess it is which one do you believe. I do not go with the Pats as one and you are a homer if you do. Too many factors that "coldhardfacts" dismisses.Ten years is the infancy of his reign and the Team had higher picks that they had to use.
First of all to be considered a good Drafter, you actually have to Draft not pass like it's some kind of a card game.
Sorry, I am not drinking the Koolaid. I am more interested in nearer today, not ten years ago.
As I said, greatest coach ever. Mediocre Drafter. Great teacher. He takes "C" value picks and makes them into "B" type players or "Very good" players. Just think if he actually took some more "A" or "B" type to start! He could make it easier on himself.
Likes to do it the hard way. Why? Is he more vested in the chess match itself?
The list of players he passed on is way too compelling, than those he tried to assemble into his vision. He has done well with whom he has chosen, but he left too many on the table with much more "VALUE" that he so preaches IMO.
I am starting to think Scouting may be an issue. When you Draft a kid who does not even think he would be Drafted, and whom you could have surely got as an UDFA (that is value??? Come on Bill!), to come in and have him replace another JAG like Slater whom he traded up for!!!!!,....... yes I stand on what I said about BB. Great coach..... mediocre Drafter. You want more?
Let's talk 2006 and 2008. If you talk ten years, those bad years are diluted. Talk five and he has 40% poopy Draft classes to start.
Greatest coach ever. His only wart is his fear of actually Drafting a player that does not fit every criteria so he trades out. Yet he picks up second tier guys and tries to mold them. Everything I say is true. He should trust his real board and look at how well he did with Mayo.
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You say to be a good drafter, you actually have to draft people instead of passing. But you're missing a simple, fundamental fact: the man drafts more players than anyone else in the league!
Forget effectiveness. Forget efficiency. Your criticism is he doesn't draft people??? If we're talking simply about number of draft picks made, NO ONE beats BB. How can you overlook this?
The guy has made 33 draft picks in the past 3 drafts, including 16 in the first 3 rounds, or almost double what everyone else has.
The Chargers were stacked in this draft due to the Cromartie/Whitehurst trades, so they were able to match him with 5 picks in the top 3 rounds, but over the past 3 drafts they've only made 9 total. The Packers are popular lately, but they've only made 8 picks during the same period. The Steelers have made 10.
So yes, BB trades picks. He also makes them, a lot of them, and at the top of the draft too.
As for the type of talent, I believe coaching matters, but I also think BB puts a lot into a prospect's ability to learn and accept coaching. That's why he passes on an "A" talent like Dez Bryant for a "C" talent like McCourty I suppose. Or maybe a prospect's intelligence, determination, and desire should also be factored more significantly into their rating.
As for BB coaching up inferior athletes while leaving "value" on the board, that's just ridiculous, and a way to be critical of even great picks. You could argue every draft has value left on it. Whenever you pick someone earlier than someone who's better, that's value you could have had. So someone like Mankins was considered a reach by many at #31. But was it really? In the same draft, Pac Man went #6. Is that an "A" athlete? What about Troy Williamson at #7, or Mike Williams at #10, or David Pollack at #17, or Alex Barron at #19, or Matt Jones at #21, on and on and on. Lots of teams leave plenty of value on the board by blowing picks on guys who are athletes but not football players. But the Pats get a Pro Bowler at #31 and we're leaving value on the board.
I love the bit about taking only 2006 to 2008 because 10 years dilutes the bad drafts. That's sort of the point. We're looking at an entire track record. You're omitting the beginning because it doesn't fit. And now you're ignoring the end because it doesn't fit too. You look at a specific 3-year window because it's the worst part of it. It's like judging Peyton Manning by his awful 3-game stretch last season.
The funniest part is now you're ignoring the last few drafts, which are the most recent history.
There were some poor decisions in that time period. But again, if you look at the entire history, or even recent history, you see a much different story.
