Patriots could have had in 2nd round instead of Chad Jackson.....

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  1. marcus

    marcus On the Game Day Roster

    Marcus McNeil 18th pick- stud Left tackle, who has been sensational for SD

    Greg Jennings 20th pick- fine WR for GB

    Devin Hester 25th pick- tied all time record for rookie KR's for TDs for touchdowns

    Face it the Patriots whiffed big time picking Jackson instead of McNeil.
    He could have been our stud LT for the next 10 years.
    Maybe BB and Pioli listened to much to the Urban Meyer hype
  2. ironwasp

    ironwasp Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

    Why don't we give the kid a chance before jumping to conclusions like this.

    Sure we all want him to be Jerry Rice today, but let's wait til we see him out on the field free from injury before we throw him under a bus.
  3. Oswlek

    Oswlek Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    And there you have it. Never before has any player ever had a decent career after having such a poor rookie year. And never before has anyone ever had a good start to their career and then tailed off.

    Every career can be drawn linearly from start through growth to peak through declining to retirement.

    It's quite simple really.
  4. patpatriot

    patpatriot Banned

    Stop it... stop it... stop it...this kind of retroflection is like who you could have married instead of your present spouse... there's no profit there... this way lies madness.
  5. PonyExpress

    PonyExpress In the Starting Line-Up

    You're right... Pioli and BB, they don't know what the **** they're doing. Too bad they took Seymour over Terrell, or that dope Ty Warren. What a bust he was his 1st year, the #14 overall pick. Are these posters piling on Chad Jackson really Pats fans, or just recent Red Sox crossovers? They're making me physically ill, turning Jackson into their "whipping boy" the same way they jumped on Willy Mo Pena. They constitute a mean spirited, premature "lynch mob". Read into that what you want.
  6. TomBrady'sGoat

    TomBrady'sGoat 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    so teams should only draft guys who end up being good players? brilliant! i can't believe some team hasn't hired you for their front office.
  7. DarrylS

    DarrylS Supporter Supporter

    These threads are about as tiring as the calleers on WEEI... we do not know how Jackson will look when gets on the field full time.. woulda, shoulda, couldof is all a bunch of BS... give him a chance, he might be the guy we need to stretch the field.
  8. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi Supporter

    #12 Jersey

    Yep, these "we could have had" threads are stupid. When some GM claimst to be perfect we will expect no more mistakes. Let's grab Colston in Round 6 instead of Mincey, btw. while we're at it. Why stop with Jennings ?
  9. mgcolby

    mgcolby Woohoo, I'm a VIP!!! Supporter

    Look we could have also had anyone of the following players, as well as anyone who wasn't drafted.

    5 37 Jimmy Williams Falcons DB Virginia Tech
    6 38 Thomas Howard Raiders LB Texas-El Paso
    7 39 Winston Justice Eagles T USC
    8 40 Daniel Bullocks Lions DB Nebraska
    9 41 Taitusi (Deuce) Lutui Cardinals G USC
    10 42 Danieal Manning Bears DB Abilene Christian
    11 43 Roman Harper Saints DB Alabama
    12 44 Sinorice Moss Giants WR Miami (FL)
    13 45 LenDale White Titans RB USC
    14 46 Joe Klopfenstein Rams TE Colorado
    15 47 Daryn Colledge Packers T Boise State
    16 48 Cedric Griffin Vikings DB Texas
    17 49 Kellen Clemens Jets QB Oregon
    18 50 Marcus McNeill Chargers T Auburn
    19 51 Ryan Cook Vikings C New Mexico
    20 52 Greg Jennings Packers WR Western Michigan
    21 53 Anthony Fasano Cowboys TE Notre Dame
    22 54 Bernard Pollard Chiefs DB Purdue
    23 55 Andrew Whitworth Bengals T Louisiana State
    24 56 Chris Chester Ravens C Oklahoma
    25 57 Devin Hester Bears WR Miami (FL)
    26 58 Richard Marshall Panthers DB Fresno State
    27 59 Jeremy Trueblood Buccaneers T Boston College
    28 60 Maurice Drew Jaguars RB UCLA
    29 61 Tony Scheffler Broncos TE Western Michigan
    30 62 Tim Jennings Colts DB Georgia
    31 63 Darryl Tapp Seahawks DE Virginia Tech
    32 64 Tarvaris Jackson Vikings QB Alabama State
    3 1 65 Charles Spencer Texans T Pittsburgh
    2 66 Eric Winston Texans T Miami (FL)
    3 67 Abdul Hodge Packers LB Iowa
    4 68 Claude Wroten Rams DT Louisiana State
    5 69 Paul McQuistan Raiders G Weber State
    6 70 Ashton Youboty Bills DB Ohio State
    7 71 Chris Gocong Eagles DE Cal Poly
    8 72 Leonard Pope Cardinals TE Georgia
    9 73 Dusty Dvoracek Bears DT Oklahoma
    10 74 Brian Calhoun Lions RB Wisconsin
    11 75 Jason Spitz Packers C Louisville
    12 76 Anthony Schlegel Jets LB Ohio State
    13 77 Jon Alston Rams LB Stanford
    14 78 Travis Wilson Browns WR Oklahoma
    15 79 Jerious Norwood Falcons RB Mississippi State
    16 80 Clint Ingram Jaguars LB Oklahoma
    17 81 Charlie Whitehurst Chargers QB Clemson
    18 82 Derek Hagan Dolphins WR Arizona State
    19 83 Anthony Smith Steelers DB Syracuse
    20 84 Brandon Williams 49ers WR Wisconsin
    21 85 Brodie Croyle Chiefs QB Alabama
    22 86 Dave Thomas Patriots TE Texas
    23 87 David Pittman Ravens DB Northwestern State
    24 88 James Anderson Panthers LB Virginia Tech
    25 89 Rashad Butler Panthers T Miami (FL)
    26 90 Maurice Stovall Buccaneers WR Notre Dame
    27 91 Frostee Rucker Bengals DE USC
    28 92 Jason Hatcher Cowboys DE Grambling State
    29 93 Dominique Byrd Rams TE USC
    30 94 Freddie Keiaho Colts LB San Diego State
    31 95 Willie Reid Steelers WR Florida State
    32 96 Gerris Wilkinson Giants LB Georgia Tech
    33 97 Eric Smith Jets DB Michigan State
    4 1 98 Owen Daniels Texans TE Wisconsin
    2 99 Max Jean-Gilles Eagles G Georgia
    3 100 Michael Robinson 49ers WR Penn State
    4 101 Darnell Bing Raiders DB USC
    5 102 Calvin Lowry Titans DB Penn State
    6 103 Brad Smith Jets WR Missouri
    7 104 Cory Rodgers Packers WR Texas Christian
    8 105 Ko Simpson Bills DB South Carolina
    9 106 Garrett Mills Patriots TE Tulsa
    10 107 Gabriel Watson Cardinals DT Michigan
    11 108 Jahri Evans Saints T Bloomsburg (PA)
    12 109 Jason Avant Eagles WR Michigan
    13 110 Leon Williams Browns LB Miami (FL)
    14 111 Demetrius Williams Ravens WR Oregon
    15 112 Isaac Sowells Browns G Indiana
    16 113 Victor Adeyanju Rams DE Indiana
    17 114 Joe Toledo Dolphins T Washington
    18 115 Will Blackmon Packers WR Boston College
    19 116 Stephen Tulloch Titans LB North Carolina State
    20 117 Leon Washington Jets RB Florida State
    21 118 Stephen Gostkowski Patriots K Memphis
    22 119 Brandon Marshall Broncos WR Central Florida
    23 120 Jamar Williams Bears LB Arizona State
    24 121 Nate Salley Panthers DB Ohio State
    25 122 Alan Zemaitis Buccaneers DB Penn State
    26 123 Domata Peko Bengals DT Michigan State
    27 124 Barry Cofield Giants DT Northwestern
    28 125 Skyler Green Cowboys WR Louisiana State
    29 126 Elvis Dumervil Broncos DE Louisville
    30 127 Ray Edwards Vikings DE Purdue
    31 128 Rob Sims Seahawks G Ohio State
    32 129 Guy Whimper Giants T East Carolina
    33 130 Domenik Hixon Broncos WR Akron
    34 131 Willie Colon Steelers G Hofstra
    35 132 P.J. Daniels Ravens RB Georgia Tech
    36 133 Orien Harris Steelers DT Miami (FL)
  10. mgcolby

    mgcolby Woohoo, I'm a VIP!!! Supporter

    I had to split it up there were too many characters in my post, so let it continue:

    5 1 134 Kyle Williams Bills DT Louisiana State
    2 135 Rob Ninkovich Saints DE Purdue
    3 136 Ryan O'Callaghan Patriots G California
    4 137 Terna Nande Titans LB Miami (OH)
    5 138 Pat Watkins Cowboys DB Florida State
    6 139 Quinn Ojinnaka Falcons T Syracuse
    7 140 Parys Haralson 49ers DE Tennessee
    8 141 Jonathan Scott Lions T Texas
    9 142 Brandon Johnson Cardinals LB Louisville
    10 143 Brad Butler Bills T Virginia
    11 144 Marques Hagans Rams WR Virginia
    12 145 Jerome Harrison Browns RB Washington State
    13 146 Dawan Landry Ravens DB Georgia Tech
    14 147 Jeremy Bloom Eagles WR Colorado
    15 148 Ingle Martin Packers QB Furman
    17 149 Greg Blue Vikings DB Georgia
    18 150 Jason Pociask Jets TE Wisconsin
    19 151 Tim Dobbins Chargers LB Iowa State
    20 152 DeMario Minter Browns DB Georgia
    21 153 Anthony Montgomery Redskins DT Minnesota
    22 154 Marcus Maxey Chiefs DB Miami (FL)
    23 155 Jeff King Panthers TE Virginia Tech
    24 156 Julian Jenkins Buccaneers DE Stanford
    25 157 A. J. Nicholson Bengals LB Florida State
    26 158 Charlie Peprah Giants DB Alabama
    27 159 Mark Anderson Bears DE Alabama
    28 160 Brent Hawkins Jaguars DE Illinois State
    29 161 Chris Kuper Broncos G North Dakota
    30 162 Michael Toudouze Colts G Texas Christian
    31 163 David Kirtman Seahawks RB USC
    32 164 Omar Jacobs Steelers QB Bowling Green
    33 165 Tony Moll Packers T Nevada
    34 166 Quinn Sypniewski Ravens TE Colorado
    35 167 Charles Davis Steelers TE Purdue
    36 168 Omar Gaither Eagles LB Tennessee
    37 169 Jesse Mahelona Titans DT Tennessee
    6 1 170 Wali Lundy Texans RB Virginia
    2 171 Mike Hass Saints WR Oregon State
    3 172 Jonathan Orr Titans WR Wisconsin
    4 173 Reed Doughty Redskins DB Northern Colorado
    5 174 Josh (Bernard) Lay Saints DB Pittsburgh
    6 175 Delanie Walker 49ers WR Central Missouri State
    7 176 Kevin Boothe Raiders T Cornell
    8 177 Jon Lewis Cardinals DT Virginia Tech
    9 178 Keith Ellison Bills LB Oregon State
    10 179 Alton (Dee) McCann Lions DB West Virginia
    11 180 Lawrence Vickers Browns RB Colorado
    12 181 Babatunde Oshinowo Browns DT Stanford
    13 182 Montavious Stanley Cowboys DT Louisville
    14 183 Johnny Jolly Packers DT Texas A&M
    15 184 Adam Jennings Falcons WR Fresno State
    16 185 Tyrone Culver Packers DB Fresno State
    17 186 Tre' Stallings Chiefs G Mississippi
    18 187 Jeromey Clary Chargers T Kansas State
    19 188 Kurt Smith Chargers K Virginia
    20 189 Drew Coleman Jets DB Texas Christian
    21 190 Jeff Webb Chiefs WR San Diego State
    22 191 Jeremy Mincey Patriots DE Florida
    23 192 Marcus Hudson 49ers DB North Carolina State
    24 193 Reggie McNeal Bengals QB Texas A&M
    25 194 Bruce Gradkowski Buccaneers QB Toledo
    26 195 J.D. Runnels Bears RB Oklahoma
    27 196 Kedric Golston Redskins DT Georgia
    28 197 Melvin Oliver 49ers DE Louisiana State
    29 198 Greg Eslinger Broncos C Minnesota
    30 199 Charlie Johnson Colts T Oklahoma State
    31 200 Tyler Reed Bears G Penn State
    32 201 Marvin Philip Steelers C California
    33 202 T.J. Williams Buccaneers TE North Carolina State
    34 203 Sam Koch Ravens P Nebraska
    35 204 LaJuan Ramsey Eagles DT USC
    36 205 Dan Stevenson Patriots G Notre Dame
    37 206 Le Kevin Smith Patriots DT Nebraska
    38 207 Antoine Bethea Colts DB Howard
    39 208 Derrick Martin Ravens DB Wyoming
    7 1 209 Ethan Kilmer Bengals WR Penn State
    2 210 Zach Strief Saints G Northwestern
    3 211 Pat McQuistan Cowboys T Weber State
    4 212 Fred Evans Dolphins DT Texas State
    5 213 James Wyche Jaguars DE Syracuse
    6 214 Chris Morris Raiders C Michigan State
    7 215 Cortland Finnegan Titans DB Samford
    8 216 Terrance Pennington Bills T New Mexico
    9 217 Fred Matua Lions G USC
    10 218 Todd Watkins Cardinals WR Brigham Young
    11 219 Ryan LaCasse Ravens LB Syracuse
    12 220 Titus Adams Jets DT Nebraska
    13 221 Tim McGarigle Rams LB Northwestern
    14 222 Justin Hamilton Browns DB Virginia Tech
    15 223 D.J. Shockley Falcons QB Georgia
    16 224 E.J. Whitley Cowboys C Texas Tech
    17 225 Chase Page Chargers DT North Carolina
    18 226 Rodrique Wright Dolphins DT Texas
    19 227 Jimmy Martin Chargers C Virginia Tech
    20 228 Jarrad Page Chiefs DB UCLA
    21 229 Willie Andrews Patriots DB Baylor
    22 230 Kili Lefotu Redskins G Arizona
    23 231 Bennie Brazell Bengals WR Louisiana State
    24 232 Gerrick McPhearson Giants DB Maryland
    25 233 Devin Aromashodu Dolphins WR Auburn
    26 234 Will Montgomery Panthers G Virginia Tech
    27 235 Justin Phinisee Buccaneers DB Oregon
    28 236 Demetrice Webb Jaguars DB Florida
    29 237 Stanley McClover Panthers DE Auburn
    30 238 T.J. Rushing Colts DB Stanford
    31 239 Ryan Plackemeier Seahawks P Wake Forest
    32 240 Cedric Humes Steelers RB Virginia Tech
    33 241 Charles Bennett Buccaneers LB Clemson
    34 242 Mark Setterstrom Rams G Minnesota
    35 243 Tony Palmer Rams G Missouri
    36 244 Tim Massaquoi Buccaneers TE Michigan
    37 245 Spencer Toone Titans LB Utah
    38 246 Quinton Ganther Titans RB Utah
    39 247 Anthony Cannon Lions LB Tulane
    40 248 Aaron Merz Bills G California
    41 249 Ben Obomanu Seahawks WR Auburn
    42 250 Kevin Simon Redskins LB Tennessee
    43 251 David Anderson Texans WR Colorado State
    44 252 Marques Colston Saints TE Hofstra
    45 253 Dave Tollefson Packers DE Northwest Missouri State
    46 254 Vickiel Vaughn 49ers DB Arkansas
    47 255 Kevin McMahan Raiders WR Maine
  11. Seymour93

    Seymour93 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    And we could've drafted Jerious Norwood with our 3rd that we gave up. Ohh well sometimes you lose a gamble, but there's still time to turn things around.
  12. patsox23

    patsox23 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Marcus, I apologize in advance for what I'm about to do - take out ON YOU all of my frustration with posts like this one. You are being a child. Impatient. Short-sighted. Might I say...stupid. Ignorant. Embarrassing. Silly. Troll-like. A loser.

    This goes for all of you with this junk. Find a new site. A common one. This place is meant for better minds than yours. Again, I apologize - but not really.

    Have a nice day.
  13. PATSNUTme

    PATSNUTme Paranoid Homer Moderator Staff Member Supporter

    #75 Jersey

    I remember how brilliant all those teams were who passed up Big Vince, who was a consensus top 10 rated palyer. He dropped to #21 and the patriots picked him then Ben Watson at #32.

    For a team that doesn't know how to draft players, the Patriots got lucky on that one.

    Check out what Reggie Wayne did his first year. As I recall, many thought that the Colts mad a mistake with him.:eek:
  14. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi Supporter

    #12 Jersey

    Yep, a mere 345 yards. And he was healthy.
  15. Rob0729

    Rob0729 Supporter Supporter

    #12 Jersey

    You know what? The Colts could have had Marvin Minnis over Reggie Wayne. The Jets could have had Minnis over Santana Moss too. Sounds stupid doesn't it? Except in the 2001 season after they were all drafted, Minnis looked to be like the Superstar in the making and Wayne and Moss looked like draft busts.

    Give it time. You can't judge a rookie WR after one year.
  16. Jimke

    Jimke In the Starting Line-Up

    Chad Jackson has obviously been a disappointment this year but

    before we jump off a bridge let's give him another year. We must remember

    that for every wide receiver like Deon Branch who can play in the NFL

    right away, there are numerous others like Chad Jackson.
  17. pats60

    pats60 On the Game Day Roster

    #12 Jersey

    Give Chad one year in thiere off season program .
  18. pats1

    pats1 Moderator Supporter

    McNeil? He'd be on the bench behind Light and Kaczur (assuming O'Callaghan wouldn't be drafted too)

    Hester? Can he even play CB?

    Jennings? With that nearly non-existent WR corps in Green Bay, any rookie WR would have a chance to shine. Except those that, you know, happened to have gotten INJURED and haven't had a fair shot to show their worth!


    I'm excited with the base of the WR corps next year being built on Caldwell, Jackson, and possibly Brown. Add in whoever comes in through the draft, a trade, or free agency, and the obvious 3-4 options at TE, and Brady has a young and rebuilt receiving corps to work with.
  19. ctpatsfan77

    ctpatsfan77 Supporter Supporter

    #3 Jersey

    You know, it's a dang shame we didn't get Gostkowski. :D
  20. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi Supporter

    #12 Jersey

    I get the feeling you can add Gaffney (who's signed through next year) to that based on Belichick's comment today (from the Herald blog) :

    "Jabar Gaffney drew high praise from Belichick. “That was a good addition for us,†the coach said. “Through his experience and understanding of the passing game and terminology background from Houston, he picked things up very quickly.â€"
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