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    This was a Big Game anyway you spin it...the Jets needed this win and so did the Patriots. We are now playing for our playoffs life sporting 4 AFC Losses we need to Defeat both Miami and Pittsburgh or else it's all over. We also lost the tie breaker with the Colts if we finish with the same record. I see wild card all the way because the Jets have a power puff Schedule the rest of the way if you minus Tennessee next week. I think the Jets after this win might be playing with some sort of confidence. Like i said before with the 4 AFC losses i think we are now playing for a Wild Card berth and we will have to win some games. Our Margin for error is very slim now especially against AFC opponents. I will say again looking at the Jets Schedule i see possibly one more Loss...they are playing some real terrible Teams after next week and i think Mangini knows it.
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    I disagree. I see Brett reverting to form and tossing TD's to the other team, and some of those remaining teams on the Jets schedule rising up to play spoiler.

    I simply cannot see the Jets taking this division yet, because although they have won some games, they still are not USED to winning.

    Brett will start taking chances, and when the pressure from the NY press piles on, he'll start making mistakes. Bank on it.
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    The Pats are one game out of the division and at worst be tied for the Wild Card. They are not in playoff trouble right now. If they lose to the Dolphins next week, then they are in trouble.
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    We are not in trouble. We will have the playoff bye. I have nothing to base this on but blind faith in my team.
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    We're 6-4. Let's say we lose to Pittsburgh we can still be 11-5 which is a LOCK to make the playoffs. Another loss and we're 10-6. Very likely to make the playoffs.

    We're fine, we just need to go 4-2 the rest of the way.
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    Pretty much. Like I said on another thread, they had to scratch and claw to eke out a win against a badly-depleted Patriots team. That will bother them as they will start to wonder what it will take to beat a fully-loaded team.
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    the indy win at pitt now looms large now . favre played good today but i wish we had a better pass rush . for the jets, only tenn is hard game left , then denver, SF,SEA and both bills and fins at home.
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    Yeah, the way I see it, the Pats have two more losses they can make.

    I still think even in the win, this game takes more wind out of the Jets' sails than the Pats. They put so much effort into this win, they are bound for a letdown next week.
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    You seriously saw a Jester team that is division ready? The Pats had to shoot their toes off in all three phases of the game to help the Jesters win this game. The Pats are having too many mental mistakes, and it's not just the young guys with limited playing time going through going pains though that is a factor.

    A downer for sure, but let's give some love to the kids Cassel, Mayo, Guyton, Woods, Wilhite...they made mistakes, but they also made plays. Webster, Vrabes, Wright, Neal & Kaczur (for not getting their names called) done good. Mental mistakes cost this game, in all three phases. One less mental mistake and the Jesters don't get a coin toss. BB has some extra time to rest the team and work on correcting some of the brain flatulence - this NE team is not done by a long shot and NY's 'A' game needed help to finish. Don't crown them yet.
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    Yeah, and we effortlessly cameback by 18 and sent the game into overtime?

    With that logic we're in just as much trouble.

    Also I wouldn't define "fine" as needing to win 4 out of our next 6 games.
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    Lucky for them, there is only one fully loaded team in the league, which is Tennessee, and when you look at their lack of offense (minus last week), one could argue they aren't even fully loaded.
    Indy? Harrison is old, defense is bad, Addai is beat up.
    Pitt? Blew two games in three weeks vs. NYG and Indy.
    Denver? We don't even need to discuss how much of a fraud that team is.
    The fact is, 11-5 WILL make the playoffs, whether it be the wild card or the division. They play one team that people might consider better than them (Pitt), and they are slipping badly. There are only two games that should even be in question, and they are home vs. Pitt and home vs. Arizona. Miami on the road has been a bugaboo for years, but after the shellacking they took in week 3, it'd be a shock to see them lose to the same team twice in a year, especially when it's a team that is no better than average.
    They are still in good shape. 10-6 will be decided by tiebreakers, so even if they lose a game they shouldn't, they still have a chance. I really see 10-6 as worst case scenario, and they still have a shot there.
    Either way, they need to execute and win the games they should, and no more defensive collapses. It should be interesting.
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    on the other hand it might boost their confidence and play. remains to be seen. with 10-6 it will be hard for the pats since even miami has a powerpuff schedule and if SD starts to win then we are competing with them and the colts for the WC.
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    Patriots aren't making the playoffs.

    This was the most important game of the season.
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    i think this game will give the coaching staff a lot more confidence in cassells throwing game..now we can actually start scoring more probably so dont close the window yet..we have a pretty good chance of makin the playoffs if we go atleast 4-2 in the last 6
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    i think the colts could surprise a few....and this game helps them
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    If we can somehow (and that's a huge if) win the next two games then I think this team can still win the division and certainly be a playoff team.

    That would be quite the task though.
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    Losing this game will likely have dire consequences for the division and losses to Indy and the Chargers could have dire consequences for a wildcard. Chargers hopefully will take the division, as we have the head to head advantage over Denver.

    The next two games are absolutely crucial to playoff hopes. A loss to either Miami or Pitt makes playoff hopes grim at best.

    Jets remaining schedule is an absolute cakewalk in comparison to the Pats slate.
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    If the 2 losses are to AFC teams, then I doubt a 10-6 Patriots team will make the playoffs because they will probably lose out on tiebreakers.
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    jets are 3-1 in the division and play the bills and fins at home. So they have an advantage right now even in tie breaker.
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    Jets remaining schedule

    @Tenn (Loss)
    Den (Win)
    @SF (Win)
    Buff (Potential Loss)
    @Seattle (Win)
    Miami (Win)

    Jets finish 11-5 (Best case) more likely 12-4

    So let's assume they lose 2 of the next 6, that would give them 5 AFC losses assuming these future losses are to (Buff or Mia / Tenn).

    We already have 4 AFC losses and I can see one more coming to Pittsburgh

    @Miami (Tough game, but a bounce-back W here)
    Pitt (Loss)
    @Sea (Win)
    @Oak (Win)
    Arz (Win - tough one, but a W)
    @ Buff (If Buffalo is out of it, and we need it, this is a W)

    This leaves us at 11-5 and tied with the Jets, both split and both have 5 AFC losses, the next tie-breaker would be common opponents and that's where I black out.
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    Most of us having been expecting 10-6 for awhile.

    THE WEAK THREE (3-0)
    Buffalo, Oakland, Seattle

    THE SOLID THREE (1-2)
    Miami, Pittsburgh, Arizona
    Many of you seem to ignore Arizona. We don't match up well.

    We need to win what we SHOULD win. We could go 11-5 and be almost a lock for the playoffs. 10-6 might get us in.

    Personally, I think the playoff fight will a tough one with Miami, the jets, or both.
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    Maybe I'm just being pessimistic after last night's game, but the Jets look good for winning the division. Maybe they'll get suckered in a trap game, maybe not. But I'm not putting all my hopes for playoffs in thinking that they will lose enough games down the stretch for us to catch up.

    Next week is going to decide a lot for us. If we can beat Miami, we have a very good shot at the playoffs, as they'll be a game (or two depending on how Oakland performs) behind us. If we lose, then we lose the tie breaker with them and have to hope they lose some games, despite their easy schedule, so we don't end up with a tie.

    Fortunately, Indy and the Ravens have a worse schedule ahead than we do, so we might be able to hold them off if we lose to Miami. But if we lose to both Miami and the Steelers (or Arizona?), it is going to be really hard for us to make it into the playoffs.

    10-6 should be good enough in most years, but I'm not sure it's going to be this year. Too many teams doing too well.
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    Going into this game I didn't feel like this was a do or die game, but now that we lost I feel like the pressure to win the next two games is tremendous and I dont know if our team can win these two games making the mental errors we made last night
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    With 1 win and 1 loss basically separating first from last, this division is hardly won and I think the Jets will have their hands full for the remainder of the schedule. There may be a cupcake or two left for them, but after last night and the way the media strokes Favre I think the Jets now have the bullseye on their heads and everyone will show to play against them. Tennessee is definitely a tough one, but I'd be willing to bet that Buffalo, Denver, and Miami could send the Jets for a a couple losses as well.
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    They still have a better division record....and will likely finish with a better division record with the Bills and Dolphins coming to the Meadowlands in December. Tough one for the Pats to lose.
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    Anyone look at the odds of where 9-7 might get us? Or is that out of the running? Going 4-2 the rest of the way is a tall order. Everyone but Oakland, Seattle and probably Buffalo will be playing for a playoff spot.
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