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Patriots already have 3 probowlers from 2010 NFL draft

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    That's a historical draft. We do not have any probowlers from the 2009 nfl draft, which is disappointing considering we had 4 second round picks and two 3rds.

    Looks to me like 2011 and especially 2012 are shaping up to be strong draft classes.
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    Does anyone miss Scott Pioli?
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    Vollmer may not be a pro bowler from the '09 class, but was All-Pro Second Team in 2010, which is a higher honor. Edelman and Chung also came from that class, and it looks like Brace is not a total bust either. Pretty darn good considering we traded out of the first round.
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    Gronk and Hernandez in one draft....amazing
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    It's about time to recognize some things about him. He probably did more things right than wrong, but ..... I just don't see him competing favorably with Caserio.
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    My mind isn't working; has Caserio interviewed for any GM jobs around the league or been asked to do so? I seem to recall him turning down a job interview somewhere but could be mistaken.
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    Sarcasm? If not, you set the bar a little high, there :p

    In general, I don't think it's fair to praise the team for drafting Gronk (who fell due to questionable back health) while not praising them for drafting Vollmeer (who fell due to questionable back health). The same calculated risk was taken both times, and both players have shown themselves to be top-tier when healthy. To evaluate the picks differently is basically just pure hindsight in action.
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    Pioli has done quite well drafting in K.C., so I don't see any reason to be calling him out, if that's what you mean.
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    Belichick needed to execute a slam dunk of a draft that year... and that's exactly what he did.
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    Pretty sure Caserio interviewed with, and turned down, Chicago this past off-season.
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    Pioli isn't too well liked by quite a few KC fans.

    Cassel seems to be whats stuck in their craw and they blame Pioli :eek:
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    No that was former director of pro personnel Jason Licht, who is now in Arizona. I believe..

    Caserio turned down a interview with the Colts last year.
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    No disrespect meant to Belichick but finding those two in one draft is almost as lucky as drafting the GOAT in the 6th round. :cool2:

    Belichick would be the first to agree that the draft is a bit of a crap shoot.

    What's clear is that Belichick has wanted to implement this type of TE oriented offense for years - leading to the ongoing joke dating back a decade of him always drafting TEs.

    THIS is why folks - and although Belichick always seeks the best match for his system (to the point of critics often accusing him of "reaching") he's struck out plenty of times.

    Luckily Belichick doesn't exacerbate any mistakes by keeping players around when they haven't earned a role - regardless of where they were drafted or how much they're paid.

    So there's a bit of luck here - but credit Belichick for having the vision and tenacity to create just this type of offense!

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    Report: Nick Caserio Turns Down Interview With Colts « CBS Boston

    "FOXBORO (CBS) – The Patriots director of player personnel, Nick Caserio, turned down an interview with the Colts for their vacant general manager job, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter."

    Jason Licht first GM candidate Bears interview - DailyHerald.com

    "Jason Licht, the New England Patriots director of pro personnel, interviewed today at Halas Hall for the Bears’ vacant general manager job."

    BostonHerald.com - Blogs: The Blitz» Blog Archive » Jason Licht, Pats pro personnel director, leaves for job with Cardinals

    "Jason Licht is moving on. The man who served as pro personnel director for the Patriots the last three seasons, has apparently left the club. The Arizona Cardinals announced today that Licht has been hired as their director of player personnel."
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    I'm reliably informed that Piolo keeps a sledgehammer close on game day so he can randomly pick out Chiefs players to injure during the season. Kansas City has been obliterated by injuries in recent times.
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    The KC fanbase has a lot of people who've been so ruined by the previous regimes that they're completely unreasonable in their expectations.
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    I don't know why, he's built such a powerhouse in KC:D

    Him giving us a 2nd round pick for Cassel was [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
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    Most of us were mad that we didn't get more than a 2nd...
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    That was just the homer in us clouding our judgement. I was mad at first too, but then thought about it. Matt Cassel for a second round pick? If ever there was a "sell high" opportunity, that was it. Done. Thanks Scott :D

    And then he signed him to that stupid contract to top it off. [​IMG][​IMG]
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    his stock was high at the time. I was looking for a 1st I won't deny it. Vrabel was part of the package to
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    Really, we shouldn't get too proud of the TE haul in 2010. That will turn out to be one of the finest TE classes in history. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

    Jermain Gresham to Cinci in the 1st. Quality... although Gronk has outplayed him.
    Baltimore drafted Ed Dickson (3rd) and Dennis Pitta (4th). Both are solid.
    New Orleans got Jimmy Graham at the end of the 3rd, which is better value than Gronk.
    KC took Tony Moeaki in the 3rd.

    That's a pretty solid haul.
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    Yeah, but not better value than Aaron Hernandez. :)
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    ever notice that??..I know YOU do, CT...the whole NFL media consistently blacks out or blots out any mention of AHern...other teams fans all clamor about how they will stop the Gronk when it should be obvious to opposing defensive coaches that the real nightmare is Hernandez...and he's SIGNED long term...dyam, how did we ever get so lucky???
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    The 2010 Draft and UDFA are going to be our core for a long time I believe.
    So far, only Taylor Price can be considered as not a solid pick in regards to the position they took him. Navarro Bowman was picked after Price if you want to put a premium on the position of pick.

    1st Round (27th Overall) – Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers
    2nd Round (42nd Overall) – Rob Gronkowski, TE, Arizona
    2nd Round (53rd Overall) – Jermaine Cunningham, OLB, Florida
    2nd Round (62nd Overall) – Brandon Spikes, LB, Florida
    3rd Round (90th Overall) – Taylor Price, WR, Ohio
    4th Round (113th Overall) – Aaron Hernandez, TE, Florida
    5th Round (150th Overall) – Zoltan Mesko, P, Michigan
    6th Round (205th Overall) – Ted Larsen, C, NC State
    7th Round (208th Overall) – Thomas Welch, OT, Vanderbilt
    7th Round (247th Overall) – Brandon Deaderick, DL, Alabama
    7th Round (248th Overall) – Kade Weston, DL, Georgia
    7th Round (250th OVerall) – Zac Robinson, QB, Oklahoma State

    I think we got Kyle Love and Fletcher that same year.
    So that is basically 17% of the 53 man roster. Exactly what a draft should be used for.
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    It will all change this year.:)
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    Pioli gets a lot of flak for the drafts prior to 2010 but they just were not strong drafts talent wise. But the 2010 draft was a great draft to have lots of ammo. Personally, I believe that if Pioli had been with the Pats in 2010 they would have still killed it. As mentioned before by others in this thread, the Pats raked in a great TE haul but that draft was absolutely loaded with TE talent. If you had the flexibility of drafting 2 in the top 4 rounds, this was the draft to do it in. 2010 was a deep draft and the Pats killed it.
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    Pioli has 3 Superbowl rings and a 4th appearance. Casero has 1 appearance..
    Both are good. Instead of blaming Pioli, why not the coincidence that the drafts after 2009 got good once a certain coach left to decimate Denver's roster and then also run the worst offense in the entire league in St Louis....
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