Patriots all about fear...

[grapedog]

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/15559455.htm

"ENGLEWOOD, Colo. - Denver Broncos running back Cedric Cobbs spent one season playing for New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick, and that was enough.

Cobbs said Belichick's reputation as a heavy-handed coach is well-deserved. Cobbs, who was with New England in 2004, described the Patriots' players as being scared of Belichick.

"There's definitely a lot of fear out there," Cobbs said."



more in the article itself...doesn't seem to require registration.

 

[grapedog]

seems a bit extreme...but i guess you never know, the players could be creating a smoke screen with all that respect and hard work talk, just to confuse people. Now that the veteran Cobbs is released, he's free to air all our dirty secrets...

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Nice job of kneeling before Coach Shanny Cobby.

 

[PonyExpress]

A refresher on Cedric "Corn on the" Cobbs: arrested multiple times for marijuana possession in college, a severe underachiever after a stellar freshman season until turning it on late for the draft. Was a drama major at Arkansas, and came to minicamp declaring he intended to become an actor. Couldn't learn the playbook; couldn't catch the ball; couldn't stay healthy; went to a wacky specialist about his hamstring. His second preseason had fumbleitis. Possibly THE WORST draft pick of the BB era, considering Turner the Burner was out there for the taking. Clearly the Pats took a flier on his talent, but 2004 was a bad draft class beyond the top two. Hopefully Keith Kidd was responsible for this t u r d, and his termination has resulted in the bountiful crop of the last two drafts. The fact BB runs a tight ship is to his credit, and if he frightened Cobbs, that was a good thing.

 

[rabthepat]

welcome to reality Cobbs...come to my Company and screw up. you'll be in the parking lot with 2 pay checks your head will spin.

 

[RayClay]

I would rather be feared.



Fear lasts longer than love.

 

[usmcmgb]

All you have to do is look at the records of coaches that players supposedly "feared"...Belichick, Parcells, Lombardi, Halas, Shula...and compare it to the records of so-called "players" coaches...Pete Carroll, Herm Edwards, Lou Holtz, Mike Tice...all nice guys but all losers. The buddy buddy crap flies in college because the young kids need a fatherly type. In the NFL it's all about winning and you win in this league with discipline, hard work and respect for the coaches and what they're trying to do. Just as in business, in the NFL, nice guys finish last.

 

[DarrylS]

If this is indeed fear, not necessarily a bad thing, keeps people on their toes and helps with their competitive edge... Cobbs in NE, would have learned to keep his mouth shut, wonder if Shanahan will have a little chit chat with him. He should be thankful the Pats gave him a chance.

 

[BTTA]

There's no doubt that the players on the bottom third of the roster fear the head coach...they are but a single screw up from the dog house, and eventually having someone brought in to compete with them for a roster spot.

 

[PatsRI]

Funny of all the things that the Lawyer Milloys, Sam Gashs, Ty Laws, Willie McGinnests of the world have said, and none of them were/are afraid to talk, you never heard "fear" mentioned. Let's review Cedric the Broncos have won how many Super Bowls since Elway left? Heck they just won their first playoff game last year since he left (hate to bring it up since it was the Pats).

 

[marty]

Funny, most players that come here have been quoted as saying how much they appreciate that BB will play the ones that deserve it, that they all have to earn their spot, this from walk-ons to vets.

Sounds like sour grapes to me. Not too mention, Cobbs comes across as a "poor wittle pusyy cat"!

 

[Amnorix]

If fear gets me a multiple Super Bowl winning team, then sign me up...

I could care less about Belichick's personal life, or how he interacts with his players. What I want is WINS and a team I can be proud of (i.e. no Viking sex cruises, Lisa Olson disaster, junk like that). The rest is noise.

 

[BelichickFan]

What a bozo.

"Everybody is on their toes up there." - wow, how terrible.

"Muffing the ball ... ooh," said Cobbs "I'm sure I would have been even more afraid if I would have done that playing in New England." - crap, our coaches strongly stress turnovers ?

The guy sounds really stupid. And I bet those who know their assignments don't consider themselves afraid - just the bozos who can't learn their job.

 

[TomBrady'sGoat]

My favorite part of the article was "Belichick is a meanie to his former coordinators."

 

[Slagathor]

Waaaaaaaaaah!!!!!! The coach was mean to me!

These prima donnas are pathetic. Most of them spend their entire colegiate careers getting their asses kissed. Then they come to the NFL and reality hits them.

Granted BB is the least "personable" of the bunch, but I personally prefer a manager who his straight forward and honest. You always know where you stand and what you need to do to improve.

It's a business relationship. It's not college. They pay you quite a bit of money to play, and all they ask you to do is follow their direction and don't screw up alot. If you do, they let you go......just like the REAL world.

I don't ever recall reading any articles saying, Cedric Cobbs has had difficulty getting playing time, but it is acknowledged by the coaching staff that he really works hard or is a real team player.

LOSER. I'll be happy when you and Clarrette are cell mates.

 

[mgcolby]

"I don't think New England knows a player may need another chance, another opportunity," Cobbs said. "It's pretty cutthroat. Out here I think there's a little more leeway. They understand players make mistakes. You just can't make many out here."

Could this be due to our talent level? Also this might have something to do with having a team that (with the exception of the Denver game) makes minimal mistakes in big games.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

"I don't think New England knows a player may need another chance, another opportunity," Cobbs said. "It's pretty cutthroat. Out here I think there's a little more leeway. They understand players make mistakes. You just can't make many out here."

Could this be due to our talent level? Also this might have something to do with having a team that (with the exception of the Denver game) makes minimal mistakes in big games.

How many chances did the little dirt bird want? He survived two training camps and he was kept on PUP and brought onto the team during the first season. Wah, I want Cory Dillon to sit down.

 

[Fanfrom1960]

All you have to do is look at the records of coaches that players supposedly "feared"...Belichick, Parcells, Lombardi, Halas, Shula...and compare it to the records of so-called "players" coaches...Pete Carroll, Herm Edwards, Lou Holtz, Mike Tice...all nice guys but all losers. The buddy buddy crap flies in college because the young kids need a fatherly type. In the NFL it's all about winning and you win in this league with discipline, hard work and respect for the coaches and what they're trying to do. Just as in business, in the NFL, nice guys finish last.

Add Bill Walsh to that list. He looked like a nice, mild mannered guy and spoke softly, but a lot of former 49ers say about their time with the team, that they never felt comfortable about their job. That includes Joe Montana when they brought in Steve Young.

 

[lobster]

"It's pretty cutthroat. Out here I think there's a little more leeway. They understand players make mistakes. You just can't make many out here."

I suspect a lot of what Belichick does as far as player development and who gets cut is in fact derived from Bob Kraft. Obviously sometimes the Pat's have made mistakes by cutting rookies who turn out to be decent players. I'm sure the Pat's analyze that carefully and adjust their policy accordingly. However veterans who have reached a plateau of sorts and are costing the club a lot of money aren't going to get much leeway from Kraft or Belichick. On the other hand Rosevelt Colvin has seemed to step up his game after playing with the backups against the Giants.

Where you see the more sympathetic side of Kraft and Belichick is when players get injured playing for the Pat's. Bruschi's comeback received national attention from the media. Harrison's career a lot of commentators thought was over, but there he is starting again - although I'm not sure he's 100% yet.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I don't think much if anything regarding cuts and development is from Kraft. It's clearly BB & Pioli's philosophy as expressed in 'Patriot Reign' and other sources.

What's the evidence for Kraft's involvement here in the post-Parcells/Carroll years?