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  1. Gunnails

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    Moderator note: The author of this petition is using the "Digest of Rules" and is wrong. See this post for more details.

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    Whats up with this?
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    To: National Football League; Commissioner Roger Goodell

    We the fans of the New England Patriots demand that the National Football League and Commissioner Roger Goodell review the last 1:40 minutes of the Super Bowl held February 3rd 2008. At 1:22 in the fourth quarter, after Jacobs attained a first down the clock was stopped. The following are the rules regarding clock management in a game.

    1. The stadium game clock is official. In case it stops or is operating incorrectly, the Line Judge takes over the official timing on the field.
    2. Each period is 15 minutes. The intermission between the periods is two minutes. Halftime is 12 minutes, unless otherwise specified.
    3. On charged team time outs, the Field Judge starts watch and blows whistle after 1 minute 50 seconds, unless television does not utilize the time for commercial. In this case the length of the time out is reduced to 40 seconds.
    4. The Referee will allow necessary time to attend to an injured player, or repair a legal player’s equipment.
    5. Each team is allowed three time outs each half.
    6. Time between plays will be 40 seconds from the end of a given play until the snap of the ball for the next play, or a 25-second interval after certain administrative stoppages and game delays.
    7. Clock will start running when ball is snapped following all changes of team possession.
    8. With the exception of the last two minutes of the first half and the last five minutes of the second half, the game clock will be restarted following a kickoff return, a player going out of bounds on a play from scrimmage, or after declined penalties when appropriate on the referee’s signal.
    9. Consecutive team time outs can be taken by opposing teams but the length of the second time out will be reduced to 40 seconds.
    10. When, in the judgment of the Referee, the level of crowd noise prevents the offense from hearing its signals, he can institute a series of procedures which can result in a loss of team time outs or a five-yard penalty against the defensive team.

    Nowhere in the above rules does it state that in the conditions of what was happening on the clock should be stopped. Also in addition to this six seconds were added to the game clock. Had this illegal clock stoppage not occurred there would have been 40 seconds less time on the clock, 46 seconds less if you consider the six seconds added on after the play. This means that after that play, if the clock was running the way it is supposed to by the rulebook, there would only be 42 seconds left on the clock. Furthermore if this was not enough on the subsequent play time was not taken off during the play followed by a random flashing of numbers on the clock.

    The following drive took the Giants a total of 52 seconds on the game clock from the point that six seconds were added to the clock. However if the time was managed the way it was supposed to be there would have been no time left on the clock after Eli Manning was tackled at :50 seconds on the game clock. This irrefutable proof demands that Super Bowl XLII be reviewed from the point of the first illegal stoppage.

    We the fans of the NFL demand that Commissioner investigate this matter as it is in his ability and it is his responsibility. The following is what the commissioner may do in this matter.

    Commissioner’s Authority
    The Commissioner has sole authority to investigate and to take appropriate disciplinary or corrective measures if any club action, nonparticipant interference, or emergency occurs in an NFL game which he deems so unfair or outside the accepted tactics encountered in professional football that such action has a major effect on the result of a game.

    No Club Protests
    The authority and measures provided for in this section (UNFAIR ACTS) do not constitute a protest machinery for NFL clubs to dispute the result of a game. The Commissioner will conduct an investigation under this section only to review an act or occurrence that he deems so unfair that the result of the game in question may be inequitable to one of the participating teams. The Commissioner will not apply his authority under this section when a club registers a complaint concerning judgmental errors or routine errors of omission by game officials. Games involving such complaints will continue to stand as completed.

    Penalties for Unfair Acts
    The Commissioner’s powers under this section (UNFAIR ACTS) include the imposition of monetary fines and draft choice forfeitures, suspension of persons involved, and, if appropriate, the reversal of a game’s result or the rescheduling of a game, either from the beginning or from the point at which the extraordinary act occurred. In the event of rescheduling a game, the Commissioner will be guided by the procedures specified above ("Procedures for Starting and Resuming Games" under EMERGENCIES). In all cases, the Commissioner will conduct a full investigation, including the opportunity for hearings, use of game videotape, and any other procedures he deems appropriate.

    Please do the right thing and investigate this game.

    Sincerely,


    The Undersigned

    http://www.petitiononline.com/XLIItrut/petition.html
     
  2. Wildo7

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    Re: Pat fans pettition the NFL

    every fan base has its sore losers. The Ravens did the same things.
     
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    Re: Pat fans pettition the NFL

    it's time to move on, folks. We win and we loose. You can't change this fact.

    Take it like a man. Our beloved commisioner will not give a rat at what we think. With that said, take care and have a nice day.
     
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    Re: Pat fans pettition the NFL

    this is going to be so awesome when he reverses the superbowl.
     
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    Re: Pat fans pettition the NFL

    They don't speak for me.
     
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    Re: Pat fans pettition the NFL

    This is too complicated. Can't we just have one of our Senators call them cheaters and demand a hearing?
     
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    Re: Pat fans pettition the NFL

    LMAO.

    Yeah, what a party we'll have.

    Good winners shouldn't gloat, gracious losers shouldn't make excuses.
     
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    Re: Pat fans pettition the NFL

    The game is over move on....
     
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    Re: Pat fans pettition the NFL

    Giants fan Here, hey everygroup has its idiots, we have a LOT of them over at Giants.com believe me we won the game and there are whiners complaining about nothing.

    Pats fans hold your heads high it was a great game and the Pats accomplished something that NO ONE has done in 35 years, you wnet undefeated in the regular season and that IS quite the accomplishment.

    The beauty of sports is one can always say "Wait till next year"

    Props to the Pats and their fan base, you guys are a class act and have NOTHING to be ashamed of.
     
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    Re: Pat fans pettition the NFL

    how many were there at the beginning of the year and what were they posting, and how many are there now?
     
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    Re: Pat fans pettition the NFL

    I'll put my * after the Eighteen dash - Now I feel better
     
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    Re: Pat fans pettition the NFL

    This is a joke of some kind right?
     
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    Re: Pat fans pettition the NFL

    Well played, sir. Well played.

    These morons don't speak for me either.
     
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    Re: Pat fans pettition the NFL

    Some people can give an entire group a bad name. They don't speak for me either.
     
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    Re: Pat fans pettition the NFL

    A LOT of them, I dont have exact numbers for you. Most of us Giants fans are normal fans of Football and understand HOW close that game was but as a for instance we have some numb nuts complaining about the Brady throw from the EZ and how they feel it shouyld have been called Intentional Grounding, a few of us have pointed out that it also could have been called roughing the passer with Mitchells forearm to the head. Bottom line is the Refs let them play the game and that is all any of us could hope for.

    It was a great game, one for the ages and right now I understand this loss hurts for you guys, but as I said in another post, the beauty of sports is we as fans can always say "Wait till next year" and I KNOW the Pats will be right in the hunt again
     
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    Re: Pat fans pettition the NFL

    yeah, I know I'm going to be rooting my ass off for the giants to make the superbowl just as hard as I am the pats.
    I'll have 2 teams to follow next year.

    don't disappoint.
     
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    Re: Pat fans pettition the NFL

    There is nothing that will change.

    but make no mistake that the Game clock was WILDLY mismanaged in the last drive. For the most important game to officallly stop the clock for a team attempting a game winning drive is undeniable. Ref's didnt even signle to stop the clock. Which means the guy in the booth did it... Why not just give them extra timeouts.

    We can't change the result, and can't change history, but everyone can admit the time was stopped, and delayed, which only favoried the giants.

    3rd and 10, complete
    4th and 1 for first down
    QB scramle - Timeout

    Total clock run 8 seconds...
     
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    This can't be true, because that would really be cheating!
     
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    Re: Pat fans pettition the NFL

    If you have the time, I highly encourage that you look at the comments by petition signers. Pretty funny stuff.
     
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