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  1. Harry Boy

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    President Hussein signs Bush's Patriot Act, Iraq, Afghanistan, Gitmo :singing: boy did this Chicago bullsh!t artist pull the wool down over the eyes of his fawning gushing groupies.

    Bush is still calling the shots, Obama takes his marching orders directly from Crawford Texas.

    Obama signs temporary extension of Patriot Act
     
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    So realizing this, you now support and admire him?
     
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    Nope, never, I would have sort of supported him if he had made all the CHANGES we were waiting for.

    CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN

    YES WE CAN

    :rofl::rofl:
     
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    #24 Jersey

    This is America, Harry. The president does what congress wants him to do, remember? That's why you were so glad that The Republicans gained control.
    They're the ones who voted to extend it - not the Dems, who opposed it, not even the Tea Party Congressmen who also opposed it - however, simple majority rules - and if you voted Republican, you gave them the majority.

    Thanks, Harry. Good call. {Insert sarcastic emoticon here}

    Last Thursday, Congress passed a 90-day extension to certain controversial parts of the USA Patriot Act, providing lawmakers extra time to consider the provisions, including one that allows federal investigators to use roving wiretap surveillance without seeking a court order. These provisions were not made permanent when the Patriot Act originally passed—shortly after the 9/11 attacks—since they raised concerns over giving the U.S. government too much power to spy, and they were set to expire next month. In early February, a similar measure to extend the provisions failed in the U.S. House, which tried using fast-track rules that would have required a two-thirds positive vote rather than a simple majority. Twenty-six GOP lawmakers, including eight Tea Party freshmen, sided with most Democrats in voting that fast-tracked measure down.

    Democrats, Republicans Change Their View on the Patriot Act - US News and World Report
     
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    Again, only a 3rd political party can change our path as a country. The two party "sham" must be broken with a crediable 3rd party. Then once that party achieves credibility, a 4th party needs to begin becuause it's only a matter of time before the 3rd party become simply party of the machine.

    Simply put, corruption has taken root so deep within our country, the President is too small to tackle the issues we face... Yes, the most poerful person in the country, is to weak to make change.
     
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    What harry misses (b/c he just listens to Drudge) is that many of his voters have criticized Obama for his shortcomings in these areas, and it hasn't taken them 6 years, when he was no longer a candidate, to do so.
     
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    #54 Jersey

    If it goes too far, you get the kind of gridlock you see in Israeli politics, where no party is ever to get a simple majority of the vote, and must sacrifice its values and agenda to please the other parties it needs to help them out in getting things done. Of course, our version of government differs from theirs in significant ways, but not necessarily in a good way. Too many parties in our system could really make it hard to get anything done at all.

    I like George Washington's solution. No parties.
     
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    #24 Jersey

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    He sucks as a president everybody realizes that now, the great speeches sh!t has all worn off, America is in shambles, how long will it be before we are all out in the streets shooting and killing each other like those screaming maniacs over the middle east hell are doing.
    God Willing We Will Kill Kill Kill Kill.
     
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    That he will.

    I was surprised though, that Obama reversed his position on the Patriot Act since becoming POTUS. There were a few things I was hoping he would accomplish, and removing the Patriot Act was one of them.

    (the other big one was for him to pressure the Chinese to unpin their currency from ours, under the threat of tarriffs.)
     
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    Isn't there a little sign on the Presidents desk that says "The Buck Stops Here"
     
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    Yeah, but he's talking about the Nation's wealth...:D

    [​IMG]

    Couldn't resist.
     
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    nope


    No time soon. Unlike you, most of us love America.
     
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    Why does America's Ratty Liberal Left Wing fall all over themselves making excuses and defending anything and everything that is ANTI AMERICAN?????
     
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    only in your imagination, harry, unless you want to offer specifics (which we all know you're incapable of)
     
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    I voted for him, and he is a failure. The Debt has gone bananas, the only thing he passed is going to bankrupt us for the rest of my life, and he has relented power to the party out of power at ever step.

    It's funny, becuase when the GOP is in power, they use it! When the Dems are, the GOP still wins, just not by as large of margins.

    Everything Obama ran on, he has barely even approached... He gave the uber Rich a continuation in tax cut as a political bone... he hasn't stopped any war, hasn't really done anything.

    He's a failure.

    If you define his presidency based on what he and his campaign was set out to do.
     
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    When Obama became President he was briefed on the threats facing the country, THEN he understood why GITMO and many other thing Bush was doing to protect the citizens, it is easy to throw rocks about national security when you don't have a clue about what is happening.


    Now he knows, he also knows that a successful attack would ruin him politically if he didn't defend the country.
     
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    That is no excuse for blatently ignoring the constitution and our rights.

    "Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
    — Thomas Jefferson
     
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    There are parts of the Patriot act I disagree with. Parts are needed to deal with changes in technology that allow terrorist in way s that weren't possible before. Tough problem to deal with.

    I also think that Obama has become educated on why GITMO needs to be there.
     

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