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    #12 Jersey

    Couldn't sleep last night....had a Poltergiest moment with the downstairs televison. Ended up watching FOXNews and a Greta interview with Sarah Palin.

    She had plenty to say - covered everything from her old friend, "Herm Cain" being the "flavor of the week," to Obama being a Socialist to her possible run for president in 2012.

    She's "thinking about it," but, honestly, really, Greta, dontcha see that being president would be shackle-y for her and you don't need a title to make people think wisely.

    “Is a title worth it?” she asked, rhetorically. “Does a title shackle a person? Are they someone like me who’s maverick? I do go rogue and I call it like I see it and I don’t mind stirring it up in order to get people to think and debate aggressively.”

    “Is a title and a campaign too shackle-y?,” she continued. “Does that prohibit me from being out there, out of a box, not allowing handlers to shape me and to force my message to be what donors or what contributors or what pundits want it to be? Does a title take away my freedom to call it like I see it and to affect positive change that we need in this country? That’s the biggest contemplation piece in my process.”


    Sarah Palin: ‘Is a Title and Campaign Too Shackle-y?’ - ABC News
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    Sarah is into bondage???.. does McGinniss know this???

    Wait till HB hears about this thread then he can start his predictable diatribe...
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    #12 Jersey

    I found a transcript of the entire interview - interestingly enough they've changed her speech patterns - (I have to ask myself, is that racist of the transcriptionist as it was racist of the transcriptionist to add the dropped "g's" to Obama's speech to the CBC the other day?) Throughout the interview Sarah consistantly referred to Herman Cain as "Herb Cain," but in the transcript - he is Herman.

    She also strongly implies that FOX doesn't always report things the way they are - especially when the newscaster has an "agenda," but intimates that CNN does tell the truth.

    PALIN:
    And you know, I think it's kind of humorous to see the way that the media is covering these candidates. Let me give you an example of this. Earlier today, Greta, on Fox News, you had a host who said Sarah Palin in the polls, she's way, way down there in the polls. And I'm kind of scratching my head, going, Wait a minute. On another network, on CNN just the other day, they showed a poll where I was, like, within 5 points of President Obama. I was doing well, much better than many of the other candidates.

    And I'm thinking all this misinformation and contradictory information, contradicting information from even hosts here on this network itself, it adds to, I guess, the disconnect even -- not just the permanent political class, but many in the media also because sometimes, they don't do their homework. And many times, a host or a reporter, they have their own agenda and they interject their agenda in the information they're providing their viewers and readers.


    Read more: Palin: GOP Infighting Playing Into 'Liberal Handbook,' Problem Is Obama's 'Socialist-Leaning Failed Policies' - Interviews - On the Record - Fox News

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    Nothing to get upset about, she's a politician they're all into that sh!t, have you ever heard of The Kennedy's.
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    Why sure I have, Harry. You tell me about those slime-ball, alcoholic, wife-swapping, drug addled Kennedy's all the time. We all know what high regard you've previously held them in.

    Glad to see you no longer feel it makes a difference.
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    I forgot Billy Blue Dress and his Havana Cigars.......

    Obama's dog has sex with Joe Bidens left leg.
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    Palin was talking about the shackles of a campaign the handlers advisers and the like. The title in question was presidential candidate. Funny how some would try to twist that into a comment about the office.
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    The difference is???

    Every president recently has raised concerns that being a Prez now is like living in a fishbowl, and most of what a Prez does now is carefully scripted, the advent of continual media feeds all of this.

    Compare to a person who can sit and comment on the sidelines, with no filter...

    Without regard think she was talking about bondage sessions.. more than anything else.
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    #12 Jersey

    There is no "title' involved in being a presidental candidate, 13. Being a president is having a title, being a candidate is not.

    Greta says, at one point, that there's more power in being president and Sarah replies, to that remark in specific, "There's also, though, the belief that I have had since I started in public office 20 years ago, you don't need a title to make a difference."

    I "twisted" nothing. She was talking about both things - running for office and holding office.

    Since Sarah has also stated, in this very interview, that she believes she would win if she chose to run the whole point is moot. If she does not run it is because she believes she holds more power and can do more good by remaining the unshackled private citizen she is, with her fan club and her FOX position, than she would hold as president - otherwise she'd run, wouldn't she?

    VAN SUSTEREN: Except let me take it one step further. I mean, yes, you can have an effect that way. I agree with that. But we'll use this as an example, is that if you are the president of the United States, or anybody, as you can probably sit down with President Mahmoud Abbas and Prime Minister Netanyahu, maybe together, maybe in separate rooms, and so there is -- there is a bigger platform being president than being sort of someone who is, you know, driving an issue or getting the debate. I'm not saying it's without value, I'm just saying that there's more power being president.

    PALIN: Yes. There's also, though, the belief that I have had since I started in public office 20 years ago, you don't need a title to make a difference, truly. In campaign mode, so often a candidate, certainly this is where I was in the VP campaign, being molded, being shaped, Greta, being caricatured by those around you, which prohibits the freedom that one needs to really make a difference and influence and begin some aggressive debate that is needed.



    Read more: Palin: GOP Infighting Playing Into 'Liberal Handbook,' Problem Is Obama's 'Socialist-Leaning Failed Policies' - Interviews - On the Record - Fox News
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    #12 Jersey

    Oh fer cripes sake, can we keep it intelligent and on-topic for once?

    Of course she was not talking about bondage sessions. Why subvert the entire conversation and give credence to those who would like to see you lose it?

    Besides, common sense will tell you, no self-respecting sub or dom would use the term "shackle-y," in the first place.
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    That is why we are all different, some folks look at things one way and others another way.. or maybe it is the classic difference between the male and female psyche.. the old double entendre thing.

    Maybe "shackle-y" is her or her partner's "safe" word.
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    #12 Jersey

    Why are you doing this, Darryl? What possible motive do you have to subvert the entire thread? To prove you can do it as well as Harry can? Cool, good, you've proved it. Yes, now we all know, beyond a doubt, that the "left" can turn any remark into a sexual caricature every bit as well as the "right" can. Sexism is alive and well and exists on both sides of the aisle.

    Now, can we please get back to the original topic - there's much that can be discussed here - does one hold more power outside of office rather than inside of it? Is Sarah right? Can she win the nomination should she seek it? What do you make of her condemnation of FOXNews reporters and their personal "agendas?" Is she hypocritical to say so? Does she know Herman Cain's name is Herman - not "Herb?" Should she know? Does it matter? Is it any different than Obama referring to the "Intercontinental Railroad," more than once?

    There's a multitude of good conversations included in this interview - sexual bondage and "safe words" are not two of them.
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    I love it when Jug Ears slips into his "jive talk" when he speaks to minority's, he's pretty good at it too.

    Shackely, does it have anything to do with "shacking up" there's a story going around now that Sarah took a shower with Michael Moore.
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    Once you declare you are running for an office like president you then carry the title Presidential Candidate, which is how Perry, Romney, Cain el al are labeled.
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    And if you do not declare you are labeled what??? Commentator, grifter, opportunist?????

    The reality is in this day and age, you truly are shackled, have little privacy and you live in a fishbowl....
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    Your right Darryl and so is Sarah, the minute you become a candidate you better hide your laundry because you immdeately become "SHACKLED to that candiacy" you and your family now belong to America's BIASED SADISTIC PARTISIAN MEDIA.
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    #12 Jersey

    I hate to get bogged down in semantics but "title," is is a prefix or suffix added to someone's name to signify either veneration, an official position or a professional or academic qualification.

    You are correct in that they are "labeled" as presidential candidates because "presidential candidate" is a description, a short word or phrase descriptive of a person, group, intellectual movement, etc. A label is a word or phrase indicating that what follows belongs in a particular category or classification.

    Besides which, Romney, Perry, Cain et al aren't even qualified to be labeled as "presidental candidates" at this point in time. They are merely a bunch of people vying to become the Republican presidential nominee.
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    #12 Jersey

    Just for the record - this is not the first time that Sarah's stated publicly that she does not "need a title" to accomplish her goals. And the last time she said it, she was not referring to herself as a "candidate," she was referring to herself as a "governor." (Which is, btw, a real title.)

    The following is an excerpt from her resignation speech.

    And there is such a need to BUILD up and FIGHT for our state and our country. I choose to FIGHT for it! And I'll work hard for others who still believe in free enterprise and smaller government; strong national security for our country and support for our troops; energy independence; and for those who will protect freedom and equality and LIFE... I'll work for and campaign for those PROUD to be American, and those who are INSPIRED by our ideals and won't deride them.

    I WILL support others who seek to serve, in or out of office, for the RIGHT reasons, and I don't care what party they're in or no party at all. Inside Alaska - or Outside Alaska.

    But I won't do it from the Governor's desk.

    I've never believed that I, nor anyone else, needs a title to do this - to make a difference... to HELP people. So I choose, for my State and my family, more "freedom" to progress, all the way around... so that Alaska may progress... I will not seek re-election as Governor.

    With this announcement that I am not seeking re-election... I've determined it's best to transfer the authority of governor to Lieutenant Governor Parnell; and I am willing to do so, so that this administration - with its positive agenda, its accomplishments, and its successful road to an incredible future - can continue without interruption and with great administrative and legislative success.


    Sarah Palin Resignation Speech: FULL VIDEO, TEXT

    Todd Palin told FOX News that his wife will concentrate on "doing the things for Alaska and the country" that she is passionate about and cannot do as governor with the limitation and constant opposition she deals with within the state.

    Read more: Palin Quits As Alaska Governor | Fox News

    Sound familiar, 13?

    Still think she'd be a good choice for president? Think she'd manage to serve a whole term in office or would her long held beliefs that one can do more good sans an offical title once again rear it's ugly head half-way through her first term?

    After all, the office of President of the United States surely carries just as many limitations and just as much opposition as did the office of Governor of Alaska.

    Hell, just ask Obama.
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    You know why I don't criticize the spelling and grammar errors of others? Because you just look all the more foolish when someone points out one of your own. I guess there are some things that even spellcheck can't find.

    :rofl: Yeah that took about 5 seconds to find. :rofl:
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