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  1. Oswlek

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    I have assumed that the hwc that frequents this board is the same as the one there. If I am wrong, I apologize.

    Do you find it amazing that footballoutsiders is so negatively slanted on the NE defense this year. 6th worst in the league?! This post by you is excellent, it actually captures everything I have been saying during the offseason, right down to the 5-11 comment:

    I find it amazing how many people continually overlook all the injuries that NE went through. One of the things I am most excited about this year is seeing the D continuing their dominant play from the end of last year and everyone wondering how they could have been so wrong.


    Edited to add that I just clicked on the Rotoworld link. They feel that J.P. Losman is a good play this week?! Whaa..?
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    Totally agree. The Patriots were pretty dominant defensively last year at the end, and continued that (for the most part) during pre-season. when Seymour, et al, are in they look terrific. We'll see on Sunday, but people second-guessing a BB defense that ISN'T all banged up? They're nuts.
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    #75 Jersey

    What the FO guys are missing, and Aaron is a huge Pats fan as you know, is that there will be some new nuances to our defense. Pees figures to incorporate a lot more pressure than Mangini did, so QBs will have less time to find the holes in our secondary. Of course, with Rodney back lining people up right, there will be fewer holes to begin with.
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    Aaron, a huge Pats fan, has gone out of his way since he went national to avoid being accused of being a homer.
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    I just got done watching the Patriots' yearbook on ESPN, and it reminded me of something from last season - the last 6 games or so, the defense was dominant. Everyone forgets how they shut down teams in that last stretch of the year, including that utterly dominant shutout of Tampa Bay, which seems to slip everyone's mind. Then they killed the Jaguars in the playoffs. Now you're going to tell me, with Rodney Harrison back, Beisel gone, Seau available as linebacker depth, the defensive line healthy, plus all the gems uncovered last year during that run (Hawkins, Sanders, Hobbs) that the Pats defense isn't going to be good this year? With some luck with injuries and Dean Pees handling the coordinator duties well, this defense could potentially rival the 2003-4 version in terms of dominance.
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    Yeah, I did notice that he has sided lately with a "national consensus" on NE topics that anyone who follows the team religiously would think otherwise.

    Still a good site, though.

    I honestly will be surprised if this is not a top 5 scoring D. I think NE will surprise even its own fans with their defensive success this year.
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    The flaw is trying to use last year's statistics to predict the Pats.

    Sure, the Pats stuggled on defense for the first half of last year. Hell. They were playing without Seymour, Bruschi, Harrison AND they had five other DBs on injured reserve.

    Nobody plays good defense with those injuries. Does anyone think the Colts...or the Steelers...or any team could survive that?

    Now, compound the problem. They had games were ALL of their opening day RBs were injured. Remember when they had to sign a running back on Tues. and start him on Sunday? Ouch. And, they lost three O-linemen for the season. So, they couldn't even play "smallball" to hide the defensive injuries.

    Personally, I think last year's 10-6 record was testament to just how good this team really is. Any other team in the NFL would have gone 5-11. That's how bad the injuries were. The Pats could barely field a team for much of the season.

    On most teams, 6th overall pick Jonathan Sullivan and Jarvis Green would be starters. On the Pats, they are backing up three 1st round picks.

    Weak at linebacker? Are you kidding? Colvin, Vrabel, Bruschi, and Seau?

    Secondary? Harrison, Wilson, Hawkins, Samuel, Hobbs, Gay. And, they've all actually had a training camp to work together instead of getting thrown into the fire like a Chinese firedrill after each week's additions to the IR list? I'll take that. It's not like "shut down corners" buy you much since the NFL outlawed pass defense.
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    No doubt. Preach on brother.:rocker:

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