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    Last 5 years discuss.amongst yourselves....

    We all know the big names jennings>jackson
    Matthews>??????

    But what about the others?????
     
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    When did the village idiots get the OK to start threads?
     
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    suffering from a case of cranial rectal inversion are we in pittsburgh?
     
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    Put some effort into it? Good topic, maybe best fits in the draft section but for goodness sake at least put some effort into it.
     
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    I'm starting to wonder if the Packers are as good as they seem.

    Just look at their schedule thus far. They haven't played even a half-decent pass defense, and won't until Thanksgiving.

    They'll end the season 13-3 and so will we.
     
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    They don't - - this is hereby moved to the draft forum.

    This thread has been done a hundred times already.
     
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    Matthews = GRONK.
     
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    if you wanna talk about who has had the best Drafts the last few years it's the lions and 49ers, i dont get why everone keeps comparing the pats to the packers who cares
     
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    The sun rises in the East and sets in the West. Sometimes it's too easy to make obvious statements.
     
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    The fact that Brian Brohm goes unmentioned so often on this topic says that people are trying really hard to convince themselves that the grass is greener on the other side.
     
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    Or that Tenn 1st round bust from 2007.
     
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    Nevermind, I will do it myself, lazy jackass.

    National Football League: NFL Draft History - by Team

    2011 - Green Bay Packers
    RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

    1 32 Derek Sherrod T Mississippi State
    2 64 Randall Cobb WR Kentucky
    3 96 Alex Green RB Hawaii
    4 131 Davon House DB New Mexico State
    5 141 D.J. Williams TE Arkansas
    6 179 Caleb Schlauderaff G Utah
    6 186 D.J. Smith LB Appalachian State
    6 197 Ricky Elmore LB Arizona
    7 218 Ryan Taylor TE North Carolina
    7 233 Lawrence Guy DT Arizona State

    2010 - Green Bay Packers
    RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

    1 23 Bryan Bulaga T Iowa
    2 56 Mike Neal DE Purdue
    3 71 Morgan Burnett SS Georgia Tech
    5 154 Andrew Quarless TE Penn State
    5 169 Marshall Newhouse T Texas Christian
    6 193 James Starks RB Buffalo
    7 230 C.J. Wilson DE East Carolina

    2009 - Green Bay Packers
    RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

    1 9 B.J. Raji NT Boston College
    1 26 Clay Matthews LB USC
    4 109 T.J. Lang T Eastern Michigan
    5 145 Quinn Johnson RB Louisiana State
    5 162 Jamon Meredith T South Carolina
    6 182 Jarius Wynn DE Georgia
    6 187 Brandon Underwood DB Cincinnati
    7 218 Brad Jones LB Colorado

    2008 - Green Bay Packers
    RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

    2 36 Jordy Nelson WR Kansas State
    2 56 Brian Brohm QB Louisville
    2 60 Pat Lee CB Auburn
    3 91 Jermichael Finley TE Texas
    4 102 Jeremy Thompson DE Wake Forest
    4 135 Josh Sitton G Central Florida
    5 150 Breno Giacomini T Louisville
    7 209 Matt Flynn QB Louisiana State
    7 217 Brett Swain WR San Diego State

    2007 - Green Bay Packers
    RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

    1 16 Justin Harrell DT Tennessee
    2 63 Brandon Jackson RB Nebraska
    3 78 James Jones WR San Jose State
    3 89 Aaron Rouse SAF Virginia Tech
    4 119 Allen Barbre G Missouri Southern State
    5 157 David Clowney WR Virginia Tech
    6 191 Korey Hall FB Boise State
    6 192 Desmond Bishop LB California
    6 193 Mason Crosby K Colorado
    7 228 DeShawn Wynn RB Florida
    7 243 Clark Harris TE Rutgers

    2006 - Green Bay Packers
    RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
    1 5 A.J. Hawk OLB Ohio State
    2 47 Daryn Colledge G Boise State
    2 52 Greg Jennings WR Western Michigan
    3 67 Abdul Hodge LB Iowa
    3 75 Jason Spitz G Louisville
    4 104 Cory Rodgers WR Texas Christian
    4 115 Will Blackmon CB Boston College
    5 148 Ingle Martin QB Furman
    5 165 Tony Moll G Nevada-Reno
    6 183 Johnny Jolly DT Texas A&M
    6 185 Tyrone Culver DB Fresno State
    7 253 Dave Tollefson DE Northwest Missouri State


    -------------------------------------------- Patriots -----------------------------------------

    2011 - New England Patriots
    RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

    1 17 Nate Solder T Colorado
    2 33 Ras-I Dowling DB Virginia
    2 56 Shane Vereen RB California
    3 73 Stevan Ridley RB LSU
    3 74 Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas
    5 138 Marcus Cannon T Texas Christian
    5 159 Lee Smith TE Marshall
    6 194 Markell Carter LB Central Arkansas
    7 219 Malcolm Williams DB Texas Christian

    2010 - New England Patriots
    RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

    1 27 Devin McCourty CB Rutgers
    2 42 Rob Gronkowski TE Arizona
    2 53 Jermaine Cunningham OLB Florida
    2 62 Brandon Spikes ILB Florida
    3 90 Taylor Price WR Ohio U.
    4 113 Aaron Hernandez TE Florida
    5 150 Zoltan Mesko P Michigan
    6 205 Ted Larsen G North Carolina State
    7 208 Thomas Welch OT Vanderbilt
    7 247 Brandon Deaderick DE Alabama
    7 248 Kade Weston DT Georgia
    7 250 Zac Robinson QB Oklahoma State

    2009 - New England Patriots
    RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

    2 34 Pat Chung DB Oregon
    2 40 Ron Brace DT Boston College
    2 41 Darius Butler DB Connecticut
    2 58 Sebastian Vollmer T Houston
    3 83 Brandon Tate WR North Carolina
    3 97 Tyrone McKenzie OLB South Florida
    4 123 Rich Ohrnberger G Penn State
    5 170 George Bussey T Louisville
    6 198 Jake Ingram C Hawaii
    6 199 Stryker Sulak DE Missouri
    6 207 Myron Pryor DT Kentucky
    7 232 Julian Edelman WR Kent State
    7 234 Darryl Richard DT Georgia Tech

    2008 - New England Patriots
    RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

    1 10 Jerod Mayo ILB Tennessee
    2 62 Terrence Wheatley CB Colorado
    3 78 Shawn Crable OLB Michigan
    3 94 Kevin O'Connell QB San Diego State
    4 129 Jonathan Wilhite CB Auburn
    5 153 Matt Slater WR UCLA
    6 197 Bo Ruud LB Nebraska

    2007 - New England Patriots
    RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

    1 24 Brandon Meriweather DB Miami (Fla.)
    4 127 Kareem Brown DT Miami (Fla.)
    5 171 Clint Oldenburg T Colorado State
    6 180 Justin Rogers LB Southern Methodist
    6 202 Mike Richardson DB Notre Dame
    6 208 Justise Hairston RB Central Connecticut State
    6 209 Corey Hilliard OT Oklahoma State
    7 211 Oscar Lua LB USC
    7 247 Mike Elgin G Iowa


    2006 - New England Patriots
    RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL

    1 21 Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota
    2 36 Chad Jackson WR Florida
    3 86 David Thomas TE Texas
    4 106 Garrett Mills RB Tulsa
    4 118 Stephen Gostkowski K Memphis
    5 136 Ryan O'Callaghan T California
    6 191 Jeremy Mincey LB Florida
    6 205 Dan Stevenson G Notre Dame
    6 206 Le Kevin Smith DT Nebraska
    7 229 Willie Andrews CB Baylor
     
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    Green Bay does a great job of drafting playmakers in rounds 1 and 2. All the players drafted in rounds 1 and 2 are from big time program, except maybe Colledge from Boise St. All have played in big games and have excelled. They have decent measurables and great tape to view. These kids tend to be solid players with a little upside.

    In rounds 3 and 4 and 5 they tend to go after stars from smaller schools. Guys dominated at the medium and smaller schools. Most all need a little seasoning and a lot of solid coaching. Depending on how bad the kid wants it, determines a lot about that kids future success.

    In the last rounds they tend to take "name guys" that have dropped for whatever reason. And they could be from any size school. Most of these guys were discussed as potentially higher draft picks before the season, but for whatever reason, they didn't make that leap and subsequently fell. I guess the thinking here is to try and catch a guy who's light comes on a little late.

    Now let's contrast that to the Pats philosophy.

    The Pats generally in round one are looking at big school, three down players. They all excel athletically and most were playmakers in college. It is almost a BPA situation, but BB does target by position in this round. Very litle risk or projection when drafting in the first round but all must have upside.

    In round two, the Pats tend to gamble, high risk vs. high reward. Again he prefers to stick with big school players, especially those that have played in big games.

    Round three is the death nail of the draft for BB. For whatever reason, he takes incredible gambles in this round and for the most part has yet to hit on anything resembling a player in this round. The best thing he can do is trade out of this round, because he just has no clue what how to take productive players in this round.

    Round four to seven tend to be system type guys. Guys that are either off the draft radar completely or far from the center for the most part, but with work on technique or strength could fit very well into his system. These are roster depth guys that have a wart or two, but BB thinks with hard work and solid coaching can develop in his system.

    However when it comes to UDFA, this is where BB excels. Except for San Diego, no team find as many UDFA players as the Patriots. But best of all, no team can develop and do more with UDFAs than the Patriots. They love these guys, I think because these guys are hungry and will do whatever it takes to play. They all seem to have a chip on their shoulders and something to prove. They are all very coachable and have great attitudes for the most part.
     
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    Thx for the replies

    Funny one analysis had Merriweather best pick over Mayo???

    2012 NFL Mock Draft: Picks 17-32 | NEPatriotsDraft.com - Patriots NFL Draft Site

    These guys have us taking two OLBs from Alabama
    Hightower and Upshaw.

    Dreaming I know we currently have a team that can make the playoffs
    just not the talent to get to the Superbowl....

    For xmas Please draft high end talent impact players
    ANybody from LSU or Alabama defense is fine. Even the whole underclassman secondary at LSU
     
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    The Packers last few drafts have gone a little better than the Pats last few drafts I'd say, especially the last one. BB probably had his worst draft in his entire tenure here. THis defense needed a lot of help and some better pass rushers especially and he drafts all of these offensive players instead when the offense had been great last season.

    For all of the drafts where BB has traded down and collected all of these picks I kept thinking that in one of these drafts he'd go in there and purchase some big time studs early in the first round that were almost can't miss players, but all he ends up doing is trading back again it seems like. For a while he was raping teams and taking their picks away, but I just don't think he has done a whole lot with those picks personally.

    I think the Pats are missing Pioli.
     
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    Further evidence that you are not a Patriots fan.
     
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