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Overtime Rules...To change or not to change?

Poll closed Oct 19, 2009.
  1. I think the OT rules are fine as is

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  2. I would like the OT rules the same as Collegiate Rules

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  3. I would like to see the teams play a full 5th quarter

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  1. PATRIOTSFANINPA

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    How has the outcome of yesterday's game come to you in terms of the NFL's long running Overtime rule which was under consideration of modfication in the offseason?

    Do you like it as is or would like to see a different method?
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    #24 Jersey

    I was talking about this the other week with a college football fan which was worthwhile as they're different.

    My conclusion :

    Keep as is. But the first team posessing the ball needs to score a TD to win. That would make it far tougher to win on the first posession and may even result in teams choosing to kickoff. In case I wasn't clear enough, once the non receiving team gets the ball, a FG could then win it.
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    #24 Jersey

    While I think you're correct in bringing up a controversial topic, we are a team that lives with a 'no excuses' policy. We had chances in the NYJ game last yr, and also yesterday--to make key defensive stops, yet failed to do so.

    I think it would be fair to look at the rule, yet they've done so time and time again. If we make some defensive stops, and win the game, then no one would be questioning the rule.

    It's up to the team to make the stops, and to play within the rules that have been set forth. Otherwise, we'd sound like BAL.

    At least that's my opinion--right or wrong. But, as I stated, I can surely see why you brought it up too.
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    #24 Jersey

    I'm not voting in the poll because I don't like any of the responses :)
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    I like what you say here. Maybe the NFL should go with the rules of the old WLAF. Basically you need to take a 6 point lead to trigger "sudden death". So if the team that receives the kickoff gets a TD, they win. But if they get a FG, then it would still be a valuable 3 points, but play continues until someone takes a 6 point lead or time runs out.
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    I have no problem with the OT rules as they are.

    I do, however, think making OT the first one to six would make it more exciting.

    The college system isn't even football IMHO. It's more like homerun derby.
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    #24 Jersey

    That would work too but I think the NFL wants O.T. to be fairly short which is why I stick with a one score wins concept.
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    Six point lead would take way too long. First one to six would present some interesting dynamics.
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    #24 Jersey

    I'm fine with the current rules as long as we win the coin toss.
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    Instead of the receiving team has to score a TD, the receiving team does not get to return a kickoff, they simply get the ball on their own 10. Making them have to drive a little of face giving the other team great field position.

    I think overall, defense uses more energy than offense, and by the end of the game, defenses can't keep up. No matter what you change the rule to, I think this is the case, this is why the super bowls the last few years have been close and then shootouts in the last 10 minutes...

    No matter what you change the rules too, the defense is spent, and the offense is going to move the ball if they are worth anything.
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    I could get on board with the first team to six, but to be honest, I've never had a problem with the OT rules when they work in our favor. :D

    However, if Polian couldn't manage to get them changed after the Colts OT loss to the Chargers in their playoff game last season, I just don't see a change a comin'. ;)
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    From what I hear we may NEVER see teams play a full quarter of overtime since there is a lot of negative vibes about this from the NFLPA regarding the concern of injuries sustained in a possible full extra 15 minutes.
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    I am adamantly against college OT rules.


    When you lose a coin flip in the NFL, you actually get to put your defense on the field and hold the opponent to less than a 60 yard drive (before they get in FG position). That sounds reasonable to me.

    Brady going into yesterday was 7-0 in OT games. Seems like this fan-base should be for that procedure based on those results.
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    Well, it's all a mute point because I think it'll take something drastic to change the rule, something like OT in the Superbowl, and one team has just dominated another in the 2nd half, and ties it up, like scoring 21 unanswered, and the team that got owned in the 2nd half wins the toss, gets a questionable Pass Interference call and kicks a long FG to win.

    Something along those lines.
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    The patriots lost a game in overtime. The rules should be changed.
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    Every year this comes up and is turned down. With this current Patriot's

    team, we can expect a loss if we lose the coin toss.
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    I couldn't agree more! If the toss winning team gets a TD - they win the game. In these cases - the team that wins the toss might even defer. If you score a FG - the other team will get a chance to get a possession. This current rule is the most idiotic rule in all of sports. I would like someone to tell me any other sport that has OT rules such as these. In soccre - both teams get 5 penalties and then sudden death. In Baseball both teams get a chance to bat in extra innings. It's a very ludicrous and archaic rule that needs to be changed.
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    First team to six, and I've been saying that for a couple years now, so it's got nothing to do with yesterday's game for me.

    1 TD or 2 FG's, easy as pie.
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    Teams like Cleveland and buffalo might play another 4 quarters.

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    Perhaps I should qualify my answer with saying "6-points OR leader at the end of the fifth OR tie."

    Still, that's just not gonna happen too often.
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    Heh.....your right on that one....might as well let them play like a double header but without a break.
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    I'd love it college rule style but start at the 50 and then go back 10 yards each time ifit stays tied and then start coming forward again but force 2 point conversions at that point
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    While I do know what you're saying, there are a lot of us that prefer the college OT rules. I just think it makes the game that much more exciting. In the NFL, way too much rides on the coin flip. Once we lost the coin flip yesterday, I knew this game was over. Yes, the defense should be able to stop them, but our D-Line was clearly tired. It's hard for the fat boys to play in thin-air like Denver's stadium.

    For the record, I'm not advocating that we change the rules. The rules are fine as they are. But I will say that I like the college overtime a lot more than the NFL overtime. I just think it's more exciting.
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    Like our legal system and medical systems, the NFL overtime system is the absolute worst system in the world......


    except for all the others.



    There is no better system out there, and I've never heard anyone put forth a system that would be better. It's the inherent problem with even having overtime in the first place: nothing can fix all the problems with overtime except eliminating the overtime.
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    I think the OT rules have sucked for as long as their existence. Not just when the Pats lose, but when any team that played 60 minutes of intense football loses a game because they lost a coin flip. It simply isn't right. Both offenses and defenses on each team should be forced to come out and show what they have left in the tank.
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    Sudden death kinda sucks, because the coin flip pretty much decides who wins in OT. Then again I can see why people would be against a full 5th quarter. It would put more wear on tear on the teams.

    How about this. ELIMINATE Overtime in regular season games. A tie counts as a half win only for tie-breaking purposes. In the playoffs, OT is a full 10 minutes. In case of a tie following OT. Then 5 minute periods of Sudden Death.
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    As someone else said "I like it as long as we win the toss":D and it's true. Everything depends on it and even if your team is extremely well-balanced on both sides, if the other team is playing for all it's marbles and they're a good team as well, it's a tough win if you lose that toss.

    Plus it depends on how the other team plays it; going for the FG vs going for the TD.

    Teams play up in OT and the more they're on the field the more chance for injury yet at the same time affording a better chance for the toss loser to win. It's a violent sport and can have a gut-wrenching ending, or at least an ending that'll make your palms sweat:eek:

    The OT rules are what they are; no matter how they play it OT makes your palms sweat and God knows what else. Heart palpitations, any number of things LOL ;) That's why we love the game. Win or lose keep it as it is.
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    Every solution other than a full OT and sudden death would be like making the NFL a three-ring circus.

    It's not like our dominant team had been horribly wronged by a coin flip in the las two games that we've lost in OT. The Broncos were marching down the field on our defense, and our offense couldn't get first downs without penalties. OT forces you to play with whatever cards you're dealt. Situational football is what BB preaches.
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    wrong post:S
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    I think the stats say it all...doesn't the team that receives the kickoff only win something like 50% of the time?

    If it were 60-70% I'd want it changed...but stats don't lie...half the time the winner of the toss wins, half the time they lose.
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