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    Since Obama took office there have been 11 deaths on duty of federal border agents. Only 2 of them were caused by firearms.

    Unless you have other information and a valid link, I'd suggest you retract your statement concerning the agents being killed by these weapons.

    2011 - 2 Federal Agents were killed by a train.

    2010 - 1 agent was was shot, 1 was involved in a fatal car crash and 1 drove into a bull and a tree while responding to a call

    2009 - 1 agent stuck herself with a syringe in 1994 while searching a car and later died of liver failure, 1 was shot and killed, one had a heart attack, 1 collapsed while on a training run.

    2008 - 1 agent intentionally hit by a vehicle and 1 was killed in a single car roll-over

    U.S. Customs and Border Protection - Border Security
     
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    The problem with fast and furious is that they sold guns, grenades, and IED's to mexican drug cartels. The guns we sold them HAVE BEEN USED on the border patrol agents. The whole reason for them selling them to the drug cartels is to say, "hey america, guns are bad, this is what happens when there are guns in the USA, we should ban weapons." They were going to try to use this to take away the second amendment. It has back fired on them. Eric Holder is in a lot of Hot water. They are trying to cover it up and Obama will be F#CKED once Holder is out because there is no one to protect him from all the treasonous activity he has done in office!
     
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    Impressive lack of facts in a so-called response.

    spin, spin, spin
     
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    another piss-poor effort ... holy crap do thread starters suck lately.
     
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    From Reuters:

    This thread aside, I really can't believe how little press this story, the fast and the furious as they call it, has gotten. The government gave weapons to drug cartels. How is this not front page news? I know it's been reported on, but not nearly to the extent that it should be. Who gave the ok to do this, and how far up the ladder did they go before doing so? Heads should roll when something like this happens.
     
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    I'm not, unfortunately.
     
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    This from the same poster who was blown out of the water on Obama's social security # from Connecticut, gateway pundit(Jim Hoft) is where one can find some very reliable information...

    Jim Hoft has been proven to be a pretty consistent liar, and is affiliated with the Big Government blog(an even bigger liar)....

    Keep googling Obama bad, there is a lot out there on those agenda driven blogs..

    If Harry Boy ever saw a picture of Jim Hoft, he would automatically classify him as a diddler..
     
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    As much as I agree that this is a classic cluster f..ck, and there needs to be accountability the reason for not making more of this in the news, which could be argued, is that most of the killing has occurred on the other side of the border.

    There life is cheap and in this world, become part of their culture....
     
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    ATF gunwalker scandal … did US Customs and Border Protection look the other way when the guns were headed south? - Views From Baja Arizona


    The Gun Walker Cover Up Unravels - HUMAN EVENTS


     
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    As much as I think this is a SEVERE criminal act by whoever gave the green light to this mission, and at least one of the stupidest things I've heard of someone doing since Bush was president..


    I've gotta call BS on this 'story'.


    Simply because the purpose of 'fast and furious' was to use the guns to track the drug lords. Since the tracking system failed, HOW CAN THEY TRACE THE GUNS TO 200 deaths if they can't trace the guns to the drug-lords?



    fail.
     
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    Thread starter said over 200 murders and killing of border agents (plural).

    Are you admitting that he was either incorrect or lying?

    I know he's a righty like you, but lets see if you are capable of acknowledging the truth. He already showed he wasn't willing to do so.
     
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    Well the numbers keep going up on the number of deaths the total is now over 200 Mexicans according the the Mexican AG.

    Pajamas Media » Gunwalker’s Body Count Grows, Along with the Obama Administration’s Cover-Up


    There was a second assault on some cops in AZ using an AK47 provided to the drug cartels under the DOJ Fast and Furious program.

    [Fast and Furious guns tied to second violent crime - latimes.com


    The Administration is stonewalling congress on information relating to this scandal, so far the Obama administration is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of innocents (and the total will continue to grow as these guns are still in circulation with the cartels).


    Holder should have resigned already, I suspect if the dems decide to get rid of Obama to help their Senate prospects they will use this scandal. Emails from the WH indicate that people there were aware of the program, apparently it was going to be the basis for new gun control laws aimed at American citizens. Oh the irony.

    Perhaps you should focus on the actions of the administration instead of trying to play gotcha with the OP who raised a very serious scandal...;)
     
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    Funny how we did not hold "Bush the former booze/cokehead in chief" et al to the same body count standards, and he was a lying baztard about Iraq... but now we want to hold Holder to a higher standard. The right sure looks at the world funny... inconsistent anyways.

    Think that body count is over 4500 americans..
     
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    Serial numbers on the guns? Internal emails admit to the problem?

    It's criminal as is the cover up.
     
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    Well hold all the members of congress who saw the same Intel Bush did as authorized military action. The vote of course was bipartisan.

    This operation OTOH didn't have congressional approval it was a secret and there was an attempted cover up.


    Apples and Oranges, try again.
     
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    Not really you are concerned about lies and coverup, convict them all.. but do not minimize these lies by the former boozehound president. He lied initially and that is pretty much the same as a coverup... no one held him accountable, and over 4500 soldiers died along with 150K women and children.

    Remember the yellowcake and nigerian bull shyt...
     
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    So the drug lords are giving out serial numbers of the guns, how about the ballistic proof???

    Did they drug lords provide the guns to fire another round so they could compare the two rounds???

    Did the US have access to the bodies, to insure that the deaths were caused by these guns???

    Sounds like a lie to this viewer... the right likes to lie.
     

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