OT: Ty Law still doesn't get it

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  1. DaBruinz

    DaBruinz Pats, B's, Sox PatsFans.com Supporter

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    I was reading today's article in the Globe and realized that Ty Law just doesn't get it. He clearly things that players are entitled to their signing bonuses and has this idea that he's entitled to the millions he's making.

    He also goes into how player contracts aren't guaranteed and how he's been cut twice because of the salary cap even though he could still play....He mentions the Lawyer Milloy situation. Hell, he makes himself out to empathize with Samuel saying that if Samuel gets injured he won't get his 19-20-21 million signing bonus and such...

    What is sad is that this guy wants to be in the Hall of Fame. That's his goal. If I was a sports writer, I wouldn't vote for him because I don't believe that he's as good as he thinks he is.
  2. PonyExpress

    PonyExpress In the Starting Line-Up

    Re: OT: Ty Law still doesn't get it.

    He needs two more good seasons to make it, and I'm not sure he has it in him. If he breaks 60 INTs he'll probably get in in eventually.
  3. patsox23

    patsox23 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Re: OT: Ty Law still doesn't get it.

    What's truly pathetic about Ty Law is just how F-ing stupid he is, and how insulting to OUR intelligence some of his comments are. I don't disagree with his contention that the money angle comes from both ends, but then he goes on to say that the Milloy thing here in N.E. was ONLY about money, which is flat-out wrong. It was certainly a money decision but it was a money decision largely BECAUSE of on-field playmaking (or lack thereof).

    If you're going to take a stand on something like that, you need to be a bit more honest or you just look like an ignorant athlete whose alma mater got beat by a little league team yesterday. Ty Law is not a bright guy. And openly talking about getting a certain # of INTs so he can make the HOF - it's just DUMB strategy.
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  4. PonyExpress

    PonyExpress In the Starting Line-Up

    Re: OT: Ty Law still doesn't get it.

    On a side note about these players with their HOF aspirations: This was the hammer Borges had, the fix that gave him power with the players. Law and Seymour knew Borges was the heavy hitter in town with the HOF vote, and they cultivated his goodwill, just as he cultivated their egos. Once Borges had his hooks into these guys, telling them how they were going to make the HOF and he could get it done for them, they developed a quasi adversarial role with the organization: skipping offseason workouts, becoming one man corporations, mouthing off in the press about the organization. I think fans underestimate the malevolent influence Borges developed with a few upper tier players in this organization, kind of like the serpent in the garden of eden. I think a small portion of Ty Law's issues have to do with the serpent whispering in his ear. I hope Borges loses his HOF credentials, because a more honest HOF voter will make for less friction between star players and management.
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  5. MetalBleachers

    MetalBleachers Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

    Re: OT: Ty Law still doesn't get it.

    What's disappointing about Law's comments is that there is a point there, somewhere, but you can't appeal to the regular fan when you complain that an $8 million payday isn't enough.

    "What do you do after retiring from football?" Work like the rest of us jerks. Retiring at 34 with millions of dollars in the bank might not be the worst situation to have.
  6. patsox23

    patsox23 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Re: OT: Ty Law still doesn't get it.

    EXACTLY. I felt that way when reading it. I know there's a legit point lurking in there somewhere, but he's such a genuinely stupid person - but just smart enough to think he's not - that he totally screws himself over.
  7. PATSNUTme

    PATSNUTme Paranoid Homer Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Ty's biggest problem has been and always will be his mouth.

    He chose to go to lousy teams for the money and I hope that he is happy.
  8. RayClay

    RayClay Hall of Fame Poster

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    Actually we offered him security, I believe. An unprecedented amount of his new contract salary was guaranteed (correct me if I'm wrong please).

    He chose to shake his ass on the street instead then hurt his foot.

    Karma's a b!tch.
    Last edited: Sep 2, 2007
  9. Mangold74

    Mangold74 Practice Squad Player

    The only thing Ty Law cares about at this point is money and the HOF. He realized that Herm's camps are a joke and that you can get away with murder and he signed on with Herm for the twilight. No question he was a great player but his reputation has taken a beating.
  10. signbabybrady

    signbabybrady Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    I think TY gets a bad rap by everyone and at times me included.....

    Anyone catch his comments on The chiefs training camp show on HBO. He was in a barber shop with a few teamates and they got the news that a teamate Rod Gardner had been cut. they all seemed to feel bad for the guy. Ty went on to comment on how he has been fired twice once by the pats and once by the jets. saying he has three rings and has been fired twice. he than said he was always happy when he reads a guy got a good big money deal, because he knows it's tough to get.

    He sounded pretty genuine. I think it is for us to criticize a guy for seeming greedy but NFL players have a short window to earn a living and you can't blame a guy for trying to get everything he can. Maybe and someone said already Tys problem is his mouth, he talks to much. Go ahead get all you can get but dont come out and act like he did.

    Ty does and always will have a spot in my heart for the years he played here and the contributions he made to the titles. He should be in the hall and we should appreciate him more for what he did as a player and ignore the stupid contract squabble because he has the right to get as much money as he can. capitalism.
  11. BoTown

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    Guy has a big mouth for sure, but it's hard for me to not still be a big fan of his. I've followed his career as a Patriot from the beginning, same year that Curtis Martin was drafted, and for 9 1/2 seasons he's brought it for the Patriots. When he was on this team I felt he should finish his career here and be inducted into Canton after all is said and done. It's too bad he didn't stick around.
  12. Jimke

    Jimke In the Starting Line-Up

    Ty is just the typical NFL player. Get as much money for yourself

    as soon as you can get it. How your team does is immaterial except

    for the fact that a good player from the Pats might command a little

    more money on the open market.
  13. FarScapeR

    FarScapeR On the Game Day Roster

    The guy's a jaded veteran. That's about all there is to it.
  14. Patjew

    Patjew PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Ty was one of my favorite Pats ever and had the best game I've ever seen at any position in the 2003 AFCCG. I'll always have a soft spot for him, but let's face it, he's not the smartest guy out there. People are saying his mouth is the problem. I think it's his brain.
  15. thomas144

    thomas144 Practice Squad Player

    Ty Law has always been one of my favorite players.

    I don't understand why people who have a problem with professional athletes being greedy would be fans of professional sports.

    Every player is entitled to as much money as they can get. I think players who play for less than their market value are morons. They are paid entertainers. The less money they make the more the owners keep.
  16. betterthanthealternative

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    Re: OT: Ty Law still doesn't get it.

    Agree, and it's more than disappointing, it's amazingly narcissistic. Asante Samuel at 25 or whatever is already richer than 99.999999999 of the people alive on this planet, and if he manages his money well will be able to take care of every Samuel for the next three generations.

    I was disappointed that the Mike R. let that ridiculous statement stand without comment. It's as if someone said the moon is made of cheese.
  17. kurtinelson

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    If you recall, Ty Law trashed BB and the entire Pats organization in the media during his contract squabble over the slap in the face ~$24 million deal (guaranteed) he was offerred. He has the right to seek more money, but a guy with class keeps his mouth shut about it. But hey, we all have to eat, right?
  18. kurtinelson

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    Here is a quote from Ty:

    At least for this fan, I hope you never associate with this organization ever again. If I see your display in the Pats HOF some day, I'll be sure to tell my son what a friggin jerk you were.

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