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Browns' Stallworth to plead guilty in Fla. DUI
Thats too bad for everyone involved. I wish they would release some of the OTHER facts involved in that case.
It does suck for everyone involved. In the case of Stallworth, it's simply a ton of bad luck and his being in the wrong place at the wrong time. If most of us are honest, I guarantee you the vast majority here have driven intoxicated at some point before, even if only for short distances. If that's the case, this very easily could have happened to you.
How long before we get flamed for that comment?
I haven't, and I'm a borderline alcoholic. If someone wants to drink themself to death, then that's nobody else's business; if they want to get behind the wheel and put others at risk, then that's everyone else's business. So no, I don't have any sympathy for Stallworth.
Just a bad scene that he will always regret. The minimal prison time is the least of his worries.
I've done it in the past, but not for a long time. Obviously there was no intent to hurt anyone on Stallworth's part, but a man is dead directly because of his actions. Maybe it could happen to any of us, but we'd all have to pay a price, and so should he. I hope it's a lesson to someone else who might have otherwise drank and gotten behind the wheel, that's the only good that could come of any of this.
he shouldnt have driven drunk, I dont give a crap about his bad luck. he killed someone, and it was his fault, no one elses.
Well, I have to disagree with you there. When crossing a three lane highway outside of a crosswalk the pedestrian has a duty to be very vigilant and to be sure he can make it across even if the oncoming traffic does not stop (or even slow down) for him. Maybe you are not familiar with the area where this happened, but it is a highway. Imagine if some old guy was trudging across the mass pike in the early morning hours, you're looking down changing the radio and all of the sudden you look up and there's a guy in your headlights...you may have time to avoid him, or may not....It's hard to judge someone in this case....and for that reason I expect he will receive a very lenient sentence.
that statement reminds me of my little neice the other day when a person was crossing the street and wasnt in the cross walk, being young and not understanding, she swore that we could legally hit him and not get in trouble. Ha ha, dude drove drunk and risked alot of peoples lifes. He gets no sympathy.
So, he apparently will do time, but there is no suggestion how long. Essentially, he was able to buy his way out of a civil case.
That's a rather sadistic thought for a little girl to have.
He gets no sympathy from you, that's fine, but he would from a jury, that's why he's going to plea out for small peanuts.
I can't believe he flashed his lights but didn't slow down.
Not saying he shouldn't be punished...
Not saying it wasn't his fault...
That's the bizarre part. Stallworth saw the guy, for sure. Donte just wanted the guy to get out of HIS way, making his situation very different from the "guy running across the Mass Pike while I was fiddling with the radio and didn't see him" analogy.
He saw the dude, wanted him to get out of the way, and just assumed that he would. Such stupidity doesn't necessarily require alcohol, but our legal system permits us to assume as much.
I'm afraid he deserves a significant sentence.
That's a bit odd for sure....I'm not sure I would've volunteered that information if I were him.
Thats just rubbish.
You would at least hit the brakes and try and stop if you couldn't avoid them. He never slowed down.
And besides he had been drinking so he should not have been driving. There is no excuse for drink driving.
30 days. But if it works for the Reyes family in conjunction with millions in reparations who are we to biatch and moan...
I would expect there to be some sort of NFL suspension in the works, but again that will be predicated by this agreement and sentencing.
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Rather bizarre. He pays off the family and somehow that allows him to plead guility and yet the guilty plea is not considered a conviction. A conviction would have require a mandatory 4-year sentence. Somehow or another I think a few people not in the victim's family also got paid.
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Florio mentioned this on the PFT piece but it really does show how absurd the Michael Vick penalty was. If Vick has to now sit out 4 games it will only add to this inbalence.
I'm no expert, but it sounds to me like simply a way to work out an old-fashioned plea bargain in the new-fangled world of mandatory sentencing laws.
Vick's not sitting out.
>There's some questions I have to ask. They're a little personal. Have you ever been convicted of a felony or a misdemeanour?
-That's robbery, rape, car theft, that sort of thing?
- No. Never convicted.
murdering a human being -- 1 month in jail
abusing a mutt -- 22 months in jail
realizing our criminal justice system is ******* joke, that values the life of a dog more than people -- priceless.
Indeed..... two ridiculously stupid laws that people have not only passed but defended.
Then again, this is the country that had a state essentially give pigs civil rights.
ummmmm, one was premeditated, and the other was an ACCIDENT. Like no one here has ever done something stupid, that couldve hurt someone else. F'in Hypocrites
I'm not saying either penalty is right or wrong, but you're doing your entire assessment of the crimes based on the severity of outcome. There's a lot more to it, including intent, ongoing patterns of behavior, coverups, etc. Stallworth was tragically irresponsible to drive intoxicated, but what happened was still a blink-of-an-eye accident. Vick ran an organized criminal conspiracy for years.
Fixed it for you.
a flash of the lights
a few more blinks-of-an-eye
nary a tap on the brakes...
Not exactly premeditated, but it's not like there was not plenty of time for him to do the right thing, if not intoxicated. I think 30 days is a joke, and whomever passed the laws for mandatory 4-year terms for convicted DUI manslaughter must be really ticked (though 4 years may be a little harsh).
I'm not making any comparisons to Vick at all. I just think that Stallworth's multimillion dollar payout allowed a way around the justice system, and that stinks.
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