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    For someone who can be as charming and glib as a snake oil salesman when it suits him, Saban is truly lacking some basic, functional social skills...


    SABAN SAID GOODBYE TO PLAYERS BY E-MAIL

    Less than two weeks after former Fins coach Nick Saban said that he never browses the Internet or sends e-mails, Saban apparently has taken a crash course in electronic communications.

    Because he informed most of his players of his departure from the team . . . by sending them an e-mail.

    "Thanks for your efforts and support," Saban wrote. "I'll help you in any way I can in the future. I thought the damage done relative to me talking to the Alabama people made it impossible for me to come back as the Dolphins coach. I would love to talk to you. Please feel free to call me."

    Okay, so Saban left because of the damage that occurred because he decided to speak to the "Alabama people" after declaring that he wouldn't be the Alabama coach?

    (Nick, good luck looking a recruit and/or his parents in the eye and persuading them that: (1) you'll be the coach at Alabama for their son's full career there; (2) their son will be a starter; and/or (3) their son will be better prepared to play in the NFL if he plays for Alabama.)

    We obtained a copy of the e-mail, sent on January 3 at 4:30 p.m., from one of the recipients. The list of addressees included Andre Goodman, Anthony Alabi, Bennie Anderson, Channing Crowder, Cleo Lemon, Damion McIntosh, Dan Stevenson, Dan Wilkinson, Darian Barnes, Daunte Culpepper, David Bowens, Derek Hagan, Derrick Pope, Donnie Jones, Donnie Spragan, Eddie Jackson, Eric Kimble, Fred Evans, Fred Gibson, Jack Hunt, Jason Allen, Jason Rader, Jason Willis, Jeff Zgonina, Jeno James, Jim Maxwell, Joe Toledo, Joey Harrington, John Denney, Keith Adams, Keith Traylor, Kendyl Jacox, Kyle Eckel, Lee Gray, L.J. Shelton, Marcus Vick, Marty Booker, Matt Roth, Michael Lehan, Norman Lejeune, Patrick Cobbs, P.K. Sam, Renaldo Hill, Ronnie Brown, Sammy Morris, Toniu Fonoti, Travares Tillman, Travis Daniels, Travis Minor, Vernon Carey, Vonnie Holliday, Will Allen, and Yeremiah Bell.

    Curiously absent from the list were Zach Thomas, Jason Taylor, Randy McMichael, Wes Welker, Chris Chambers, and Olindo Mare. Maybe they actually got the courtesy of a phone call.





    http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
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    The guy is a low class, no integrity, dishonest scumbag!! Reminds me of a few used car salesmen I have met over the years!!!!
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    Outside of Alabama where will he find recruits ... toast ... Saban is toast. He'll be back in the NFL as an assistant and nothing more.
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    I love Nick. He's my 3rd favorite coach behind Belichick and Weis.

    The season is over for the Dolphins. They're scattered around the country back home. He couldn't get them together. He has a new job, it's not reasonable to expect a personal call to every player.

    I have no problem with this.

    Roll Tide Roll :D
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    As well as the knowledge as to how to send emails with blind copy..........
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    If this is his only means of a goodbye, then he is truly classless. He will be a huge success at Alabama. He's a great college coach and recruiter, and will have a big time football school and conference to recruit. None of what he did to the Miami Dolphins is going to turn blue chips away from Alabama unless they are a rabid Dolphin fan living in Miami.
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    I agree. What's he supposed to do, make 53 phone calls? I suppose he could mail a letter rather than send e-mail. I'm wondering if the guys not on his e-mail list that he supposedly called directly are team captains.
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    Most likely they were the captains.

    Herm Edwards disappeared from NY without saying anything. I bet this is very typical other than when coaches leave when the team is still together before dispersing for the offseason.
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    When BP left the Pats, did he go around and do warm and fuzzy with all the players, doubt it... I do not know if there is any graceful way to leave a team, unless it is well advertised or planned. Most guys are in a rush and the players are spread out all over the country.
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    Yeah, he gave a warm and fuzzy wave from the airport terminal as the team plane took off without him after the 1997 Superbowl loss, remember? ;)
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    He knew he was almost certainly leaving in late December - and so did his owner apparently. There was no reason on earth for him not to say his goodbyes to his players in person after the last game of the season, instead of mainaining his ridiculous drama queen charade for another 48 hours. They had the plane ride back to Florida from Indy, unless he traveled on his own on some 'Bama alums gulfstream, and he had the day after when most players have to come in to be cleared medically for the off season and guys clean out their lockers. Probably half that team lives in So. Florida year round - half of all football players live there in the off season for crying out loud. :rolleyes:
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    When you lie to yourself and everyone else why should anyone trust you......
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    Much ado about nothing...and as Patriots' fans, why do we care? I'm interested in the new coach and in seeing what happens in future drafts with BB's mole back in the SEC. Next we're going to have a forum lovefest on whether he correctly kisses his wife goodby each day...the horror.
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    The latest has the Phins interviewing Chan Gailey, Georgia Tech HC (former Phins OC), Jim Mora Jr., Vikings DC Mike Tomlin. Also plan on interviewing SD OC Cam Cameron, the Bears OC and DC, Ron Turner and Ron Rivera, and the Steelers OC Ken Whisenhunt. Funny how none of them concern me as much as Saban did. :D
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    That's about as cold as Dan Marino giving his offensive linemen figgen Isotoner gloves for Christmas.
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    I never liked saban
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    I don't think so. I was listening to Chris Landry who worked with Saban in Cleveland in the Belichick years and Chris said he talked to Saban the night before he accepted the job and that Saban really didn't know. Landry told Saban that he should stay and fulfill his commitment as opposed to walking away from it. Obviously that advice went unheeded but to say that Saban knew - I believe that to be flat out false.
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    The thing that angers me most as a Dolphins' fan is how he completely had everyone fooled. He based himselfe on integrety, loyality and committment. He obviously showed that he cannot live up to any of those and the man is a complete coward. I'm glad to see him go.
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    Admittedly I'm an unabashed SabanFan :) But he just realized he made a mistake. I imagine he feels bad about bailing. But we all only get one life. He's in his mid 50s, he likes being a college coach better. Better to do what you love because you want to than to do something you don't love because someone else wants you to.
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    True. If he was going to bother saying good-bye at all,the final game was the time to do it. That email thing looks more like an afterthought,in which case he probably would look better doing nothing rather than an email lol. Although people email everything,even wedding invitations,so who knows. I think it's sorta funny-it may set a precedent.:rolleyes:
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    That would be correct except for the small fact that HE DID NOT KNOW AT THAT TIME.
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    That's the first I've heard of him not knowing; obviously if that's the case then this whole Saban's a liar thing should stop,but it hasn't as of 30 min ago. If he truly didn't know, hopefully that will get out soon because he's getting totally ripped.
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    Like I said, Chris Landry said he talked to Saban the night before and Saban was undecided. Why should you believe him ? He's a close friend of Saban. He coached with Saban. He ripped Saban to a degree about bailing on the Dolphins - Chris told him he should stay. So there's no reason to think Chris is not telling the truth.
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    Sorry, but as I said in a previous thread, I am a Patriots fan, and as one, I couldn't imagine a bigger favor a member of the BB coaching tree could do for the Patriots than what my new friend and hero, Nick Saban just did to the Dolphins. That move, coupled with the aging of your D and the mess at QB, and not in a great cap place, should pretty much hamstring your team for three years, minimum! Stick a fork in 'em Vern, we're havin' toasted Dolphin for dinner!
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    Nick's just a peach of a guy plagued by incompetents he hand picked...good luck filling out your Alabama staff. He's long had a reputation as an SOB to work for - albeit a brilliant and charasmatic one - so I guess this will just add to the legend. Luckily it would apprear he had more success in finding his soul mate - they seem to think with one self absorbed mind.


    "As Nick Saban sat in his new office, he expressed some of the frustrations he dealt with in his old one.

    The former Dolphins coach, who was introduced Thursday as the new head coach at Alabama, said he had trouble working with General Managers Rick Spielman and Randy Mueller during his two years in Miami.

    He also said he left the Dolphins in better shape than he found them, despite his losing record in two seasons as head coach.

    "I don't know how to say this, because I don't want to throw anybody under the bus," Saban said. "When you look at the teams that have really good personnel people, that are doing what the coaches want them to do, finding the kind of players the coaches want them to find.

    "When you don't do that, they say, 'OK, here are the three best guys.' These are the three best guys? None of these guys fit our criteria for what we're looking for. People have to be willing to accept their role."

    Dolphins spokesman Harvey Greene said the team - including Mueller, who continues to oversee the personnel department - had no comment on Saban's remarks.

    Before he would leave LSU for the Dolphins in 2004, Saban demanded and received total organizational control from owner Wayne Huizenga. Saban handpicked the front-office personnel, each coach and every player that was employed by the team.

    "Everything was done under his direction, under his format, with his knowledge," a source said. "I mean, everything. He picked every player that was here."

    Also, several sources said Saban, on multiple occasions, was so indecisive in signing free agents that Miami missed out on players that went on to have success elsewhere.


    Besides friction with Mueller and other team personnel, Saban had a difficult time handling his 15-17 record with the Dolphins.

    "Losing is the tough thing," Saban said.

    After the Dolphins got off to a 1-6 start, Saban's wife, Terry, said "winning" was what she missed most from the college game.

    Saban blamed this season's 6-10 record on the team's quarterback situation. Daunte Culpepper was unable to come back healthy from knee surgery and backup Joey Harrington was inconsistent when he took over.

    Still, Saban said he left the Dolphins in better shape than he found them.

    "I affected the team in a positive way," he said. "I mean, we were a 4-12 team that was $17 million over the salary cap. The team is closer to being successful now. The salary cap is in much better condition. I gave my best effort for two years to do that."


    :rofl:

    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/content/sports/epaper/2007/01/05/a8c_sabanside_0105.html
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    When Saban was at LSU-as much as we went BONKERS over the Tigers winning our first title in over 50 years, he went out a loser at the same time.

    We had that bowl game(against Iowa St, I think) won 2 years ago, but somehow-he let his DC call an all out blitz at the VERY end of the game(when the ball was WAY back and they needed a miracle).

    Guess what happened-they scored a TD and we lost.

    It seems like Saban goes out a loser everywhere.

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