Discussion in 'NFL Football Forum' started by Calciumee, Jan 10, 2012.
According to Schefter!
He struck me as a big talker but with little substance.
They went 8-8 geez. They were a second half collapse away from winning their division. He didn't even get a whole year with his biggest acquisition (Palmer). Even without Al Davis, the Raiders continue to befuddle . . .
Expect the JESTS to go after him. They reportedly wanted him as OC when Ryan got there.
Bad news for the AFCW. This could be a sign that there's competence in the Raiders organization again.
Except that they traded away their picks in the panic to sign Palmer and win now. Oops!
I don't think he was a great HC, but still, I don't think he deserved to be fired, not after one decent or mediocre season.
Reggie McKenzie is the new GM who is coming from the Packers. Seems like he is starting to put his stamp on the org.
The good news is, as you pointed out, the lack of draft picks. Also, the Raiders are looking at the second highest 2012 cap number in the league, so that should slow down any improvement.
The bad news is that there's a new sheriff in town, and that sheriff has the Ron Wolf seal of approval.
He's responsible for the Carson Palmer trade. He deserves to be tarred and feathered, nevermind just getting fired.
My point is that neither he nor the Raiders have really allowed the acquisition of Palmer to fully play out. To me, it looks like a horrible, embarassing trade. But Jackson should have been given a second bite at the apple.
Why allow a "coach" who made that trade and still failed to beat 8-8 a second bite at the apple, if you don't think he's got the stuff and you're coming in to turn around a franchise that's been a disaster in recent years? This isn't crazy all promoting his O-line coach and then firing him after a surprisingly good 8-8 season. This is a housecleaner axing a guy who led his team to a disappointing 8-8 season.
Toss in that post season press conference and I don't have any real issue with the move.
I hope the Patriots hire him this week, just to make everyone in Denver flip out even more.
This firing is extremely pre-mature. It's ridiculous how so many NFL execs are all about "my guys." I'd love to see these NFL execs work in management in any other type of business. That team loved Hue Jackson and they loved playing for him even more. Raiders just took 5 steps backwards.
Wow! That was faster than I figured it would be. I thought that he might reasonably expect another year to sort things out, but it seems the Al Davis machine is still pulling the levers of power after all.
He struck me as an AD suck-up
Aw, man you beat me to it.
Sign the Beast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's how we roll these days!
Just imagine the hue and cry from the media when the Jets hire Jackson to help them defeat Oakland in the AFCCG! Oh, wait...
BB to Oakland: "Would you like your second-rounder back? We'll give it back to you straight up for your first next year. . . ."
Lol too bad that might be gone too (they gave Cincy a 2013 conditional first or second rounder in the Palmer deal)
I'm fairly sure OAK coughing up the 2013 1 was contingent on Palmer making the playoffs, though I could be wrong.
You could absolutely be right. I don't know what that pick is conditioned on.
The impossible has happened: the Carson Palmer trade now looks even dumber than it did at the time.
The ghost of Al Davis does exist!!
They owe Cincy a #2 in the 2013 draft, the condition was it would have elevated to a #1 IF the Raiders made the AFCCG this year.
So they traded the #17 pick and next year's #2 for Carson Palmer. They also boondoogled another team to give a 5th in 2012 and a 6th in 2013 for a certain underachieving WR......
Great Blue North Draft Report
A 5 and a 6 when you have 2 1s and 2 2s <<<< a 1 and a 2 when you don't.
The good news is this should get Silver off his McDaniel's tangent. Hue must be one of his toadies...I mean sources...and he's been threatening to unload on the Raider's all day if Hue got canned just because a new GM was coming to town. Bedard reminded him that the same thing happened to Mike Sherman in GB, because while he was a good guy he was a guy Ted Thompson knew he couldn't work with and he wanted his guy McCarthy at the helm. Worked out pretty well for GB and they were a hot mess at the time and headed for a real bumpy ride ending the Favre era. Owners need to be patient on one level. But they also need to know you can't force bad matchups to work well together. JETS have been doing that for a decade now. Hue projected as a loose cannon in search of even more power to screw up and someone totally incapable of accountability. The longer you wait on that guy to develop, the worse it gets. Example, the 2011 JETS.
Oh man, I hope the Raiders don't get a better coach. Jackson was horrible. Who in their right mind would have traded for Calmer with all those picks? Maybe Mike Ditka.
"Hue" should've been fired just for the way he spelled his name.
Jackon puts all his eggs in the Carson Palmer basket, gets fired because of it.
Polians put all their eggs in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes, get fired because of it.
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