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    If you look at the video. He talks about questionable non-pass interference call in the Detriot/Dallas game. He says that it isn't a foul because all the defender did was rub shoulders with the receiver.

    Funny, in the Pats/Colts game, he called Hobbs' rubbing shoulders with Wayne clearly pass interference because Hobbs impeded the receivers' route. It is quite clear that Pereira will twist the rules whichever way he want to protect his officials.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8050dfc7
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    Re: OT:Mike Pereira really talks out both sides of his mouth

    I hate that guy.......
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    Re: OT:Mike Pereira really talks out both sides of his mouth


    When he was hired, his job description was to "supervise officials".
    Since the league's assistance in the ascension of the Colts, his job is to "justify officials".

    Talking Out Of Both Sides Of His Mouth
    is simply what he has to do.
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    Re: OT:Mike Pereira really talks out both sides of his mouth

    It is sad that they did not use this segment correctly. If they could just admit that refs are human and make mistakes at least it would have integrity.
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    Re: OT:Mike Pereira really talks out both sides of his mouth

    I didn't watch your clip, but I saw the whole piece on NFLN Wednesday and that wasn't what Perreira said at all. He said that the defender has a right to the ball, and that the defender cut off the route and had a better path to the ball than the receiver, and that is why it wasn't pass interference.

    He said defenders are not allowed to go over the back of a receiver, but this defender clearly was not behind the receiver, as evidenced by the fact they bumped shoulders.
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    Re: OT:Mike Pereira really talks out both sides of his mouth

    Yeah, I agree. He explains it right, it was a good call. The Hoobs call was still BS though and the explanation was even worse.
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    Re: OT:Mike Pereira really talks out both sides of his mouth

    The problem is that the logic used to call PI against Hobbs is contradictory to the detroit/dallas non-call. In the Hobbs case, he said something to the effect that a defender can not impede the path of a receiver - clearly that's what happened in the detroit/dallas case.
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    Re: OT:Mike Pereira really talks out both sides of his mouth

    I've never seen a more clear-cut case of biased officiating than the Colts-Pats game this year. The league (or at least the officiating crew) tried hard to bring the Pats run to a stop there, especially after all of the Good vs Evil talk.

    Even though the Pats won despite 150 yards in penalties, I think the league was surprised there was such a strong public response to the officiating, including some of the media. I think in response they've dialed it back in terms of making phantom calls on the Pats, but have allowed other teams to mug our receivers more in an attempt to at least somewhat equalize the game.

    This entire season has been a delicate tightrope walking act by the league. It doesn't want the integrity of the game questioned and is terrified of an MLB-like fallout, but I think the result is that people are becoming more vocal about that very issue.

    I think the Pats-Ravens game (which I got to go to; 3 rows back, 50 yard line, Pats sideline, Brady and Moss literally 15' in front of me :rocker:) was a perfect example of this kettle about to overflow. The Ravens players were and are incredibly undisciplined, but to have so many players on both sides outright question the officiating (I've never seen Brady snap at a reporter like that before) indicates that the pressure around this issue is bubbling up and might burst wideopen soon.

    If the league doesn't address this soon, I expect it to turn into a very public and very ugly media storm in the next few years.
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    Nice post Daedulus (sp?) ,also like the sig.Outstanding!
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    Re: OT:Mike Pereira really talks out both sides of his mouth

    Yes, and how was that different than what happened with Hobbs? It was almost the same play, just different angles.
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    WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
    NO FAIR! NFL no like my patsies!:(
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    Re: OT:Mike Pereira really talks out both sides of his mouth

    Not true. That is not what happened.

    Correct, a defender cannot impede the progress of a reciever to the ball. Perreira said this. I wish people would actually watch a show before commenting on it.

    But once a ball is thrown, both receiver and defender have a right to it. A defender may go after the ball and bump the receiver in the process (except not through the receiver's back and he must be playing the ball, not the receiver). Also, the defender had the angle on the ball in Dallas, not the receiver. They bumped shoulders. One didn't bump the other, they bumped shoulders.

    Hobbs call was wrong, most definately, but the Dallas one was NOT pass interference.
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    I see no similarity whatsoever in the Hobbs play and the Watkins play. In my opinion, both were called correctly, except for the fact that Hobbs' play is NEVER called in the NFL.

    I think the officials are having a particularly bad year, but they are getting more flack than deserved -likely because the spotlight is on them due to their poor performance.
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    That obviously was not a foul. I looked at the replay and the word Hobbs was definitely not on the defenders back, therefore no foul.

    This guy is definitely giving Baghdad Bob a run for his money.

    "You do not actually see what you think you see on the screen there." LOL!!
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    Re: OT:Mike Pereira really talks out both sides of his mouth


    Outstanding vision !

    Look forward to seeing many more like this.
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    I see that it was the exact same play except for different parts of the field. In both cases, the defender was clearly playing the ball and accidentally brushed into the defender. The ONLY DIFFERENCE is that Hobbs was running towards the endzone and the Watkins case it was going over the middle.
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    Look at the wide angle about a minute in. The collision caused by the defensive player is so blatant, I'm surprised they showed it. If he had position on the ball, why does he need to hiy the offensive player from behind, which is what he obviously did.

    Hobbs, on the other hand, had inside position, like a receiver, and brushed the offensive player a fraction of a second as he went for the ball.
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    Re: OT:Mike Pereira really talks out both sides of his mouth

    I agree the Dallas/Detriot game it wasn't pass interference, but for the exact same reason the Hobbs PI call wasn't pass interference. In the Colts game, Hobbs was clearly playing the ball, he arguably had the angle, and he and Wayne bumped shoulders.

    I am not questioning his reasoning this week, I am questioning his reasoning for the Pats/Colts game. I think he used BS logic to defend a bogus call because Goodell was breathing down his neck after that game. He threw out the BS logic this week.
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    LMAO.

    Don't you mean Santonio Holmes getting away with blatant contact on Harrison? Both players have an equal right to the ball.
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    Mike Pereira must have learned his double talk from Hillary. He cannot make up his mind and wants both sides of a penalty. He is just a shill that the commish put in the job to mouth his doublespeak. The officiating in the NFL is a travesty considering the billion or so dollars the NFL generates yearly. The "review" of questionable calls is solely for the added 5 or 6 commercials the NFL inserts during the snails pace review. College ball is much more efficient.
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