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  1. PATSNUTme

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    #75 Jersey

    I don't know why I'm starting this thread. I don't even like baseball that much anymore. I can't watch more than a 1/2 inning at a time.

    But, I was wondering the other night looking at the Red Sox current players, which of those guys would be "patriot type players'?

    Ortiz? Veractik (sp)? Who else? I do know wouldn't be so don't try to BS me.:rofl:

    I hope that I haven't created a monster by starting this thread.
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    Pitchers are all a bunch of pussies, so I won't even talk about them much, but Papelbon would certainly qualify.

    Definitely Varitek, Ortiz & Nixon.

    Probably Youkilis & Lowell, too.

    I love Manny, but he's definitely NOT!

    The jury is out on Coco Crisp and Wily Mo Pena, but the way Coco is milking this "finger" injury, he's probably a NO. And the way Wily Mo chases down balls full speed in center, he's probably a YES!

    Gabe Kapler is a BIG YES, as is Doug Mirabelli!

    Some recent past players:

    Bill Mueller - YES
    Johnny Damon - YES
    Edgar Renteria - NO

    Armen Da Sox Fan
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    Varitek, Mirabelli, Youkilis, and Wakefield would probably top the list.
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    This is silly. While you're at it, why not compare a rabbit to a pineapple?
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    Woosies

    I'm truly sorry, this post has forced me to come out of lurkerville and finally say something...

    "Oh darn I got a paper cut, I can't play tonight coach"

    Could be attributed to any baseball player - not a single one is a Patriots type player.
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    I just asked a question because I don't think that more than 5 out of 25 would qualify.

    Would Larry Bird or Kevin McHale or Robert Parrish been patriot type players?
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    Schilling's a stat nut. I'm told he's got a big stack of binders that show exactly what every American League hitter's tendencies are. So he'd probably fit in in terms of preparation; but Baseball is so different.

    btw Tek is great at what he does, but he's the last guy I'd want on the Pats. The pitchers love him 'cause he's good a calming them down when they're pitching bad.

    Imagine Brewski going "Just relax man, its ok. You'll get him on the next play." to some rookie who missed an assignment or was out of position before the snap.
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    Wait a minute! Now I remember. Manny Ramirez bears a striking resemblance to that night security watchman I saw asleep in his truck outside Gillette after the Colts game last year. There was a Twinkie wrapper on the dashboard and he had drool in the corner of his mouth.
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    so which pats players can be called "bruins type players"??? Hmm a rabbit or a pineapple huh? Hard choice.
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    Well, for starters, you can eat both of them, they're about the same size and both of them have a fluffy appendage on one end. :D
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    Hideki Matsui of the Yankees has yet to miss a game since he joined MLB. Going back to his time in Japan he's got a very respectable streak going. Johnny Damon, even though he $ucks, is tough to get out of the lineup, not to mention Cal Ripken. Btw with pitchers, its not a matter of does your arm hurt? Its a matter of how much it hurts.
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    Yeah, I had some second thoughts after my first reply, Schilling with the ankle thing could qualify for the suck it up and get out there Patriots type of player. I just don't have a fondness for baseball and the original post hit me the wrong way...
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    one past red sox that def is: mike myers

    remember one of belichick's favorite quote: its about the situations
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    #75 Jersey

    Read the original post again, S-L-O-W-L-Y.
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    Like it's really up to Coco how his bones heal.
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    Worse


    Naw.... I swear that I actually saw a guy placed on 15 day disabled list for a ....hangnail! Baseball wusses.... Phooey!!!
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    Thank you! I love ya, Nut!! I think Schilling, Tek, Wakefield, Trot, Youkilis, Ortiz. I thinkthe things you have to look for are team players, people who are willing to go to the bullpen as Shill and Wake have done, players that are asked to learn a new position, Youk or players who can play multiple positions. Also amount of preparation would be a consideration, Tek and Schill and even Manny are masters of preparation!

    I think McHale would be a BB guy, he played the '87 playoffs on a broken foot, Parrish was on drugs, so he is a no, Larry was a good teammate and always knew where to be, he would have been sort of a BB guy, but he also wanted things HIS way. The problem with the Celtics is that they did not let go of or trade those players before it was to late. Danny Ainge, of course was the exception. BB would have NEVER kept Larry and Co. as long as Celtics management did!
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    Ortiz...Mr Clutch..comes up big when needed..doesn't complain...I agree it is hard to compare..Heard DeOssie talk about baseball spring training and how after a few minutes of running and exercising there were complaints..How many would last a few days at Training Camp???
    As for the Celts...Russell..of course!! Havlicek..Cowens...and I think the big 3 as well.
    Parrish?? Absolutely!! The Old Celts..from the ;late 50s 60s..WERE very similar.
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    I think of Wakefield and Troy Brown as cut from the same cloth. Both have been with the team for ten or more years, through thick and thin, doing whatever is asked of them. For Troy Brown, it was being a #1 receiver, a thrid down guy, a punt returner and a DB.. For Wakefield it was being yoyoed between starter, releiver, middle reliever, and closer. You didn't ever hear a word of controversy about either one of them... Consummate professionals, both....
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    Tek and Nixon for sure. Lowell and Youk too. Maybe Lorreta.
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    I'm thinking, Tek, Nixon, Wake, and Josh Beckett (who reminds me of TB in the intensity department)

    Ty Poole is just as much a baby as a David Wells, or other people said to be milking an injury...
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    Varitek could play Center calling protections - just not sure he could handle snapping in the shotgun (guess that'd be Mirabelli's job).

    Nixon could be the TJ like LB - primarily a run stuffer who will likely become injury prone and have his career cut short due to willingness to run into walls.

    Youkilis could be what Klecko was supposed to be, a versatile football player.

    Ortiz can't play the field (well or due to injury risk) but he can hit the ball a ton and put up points, and he's clutch - an expensive PK.

    Manny is one of those talents BB admires who unfortunately cannot play in this system. But his talent could land him in Oakland or Dallas.

    Wakefield reminds me of Ken Walter, when he was good he was serviceable, but when he went bad he was useless. P

    Schilling can't keep his mouth shut. Also something of an egocentric drama queen and his influence on the FO and relationahip with the media can be problematic and distracting. Definitely a QB just not here - GB or Indy come to mind. Although GB might be a better fit for Roger. I can see Schill waving off the punting unit in Indy though.

    Foulke is looking like Drew. Although Pappelbon could be his Brady.

    Coco could replace Poole I guess.

    It's unlikely any of them would make it past training camp, and if they did they'd hold out. :D
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    Well, I think we've finally reached the bottom of the thread-topic barrel. Can't wait for training camp.
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    Wake me up when it's August.
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    I love him, but Ortiz complains to the umpires all the time when he doesn't like a call.
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    I think 'Tek would make a hell of a LB, calling the defensive plays. In baseball he's a big guy, in football he's mid-sized.

    Trot as a SS or maybe as a QB. Too light to play TE.

    But they're great baseball players who would absolutely suck at football. By now, they both would have been forced into retirement, if they had gone into the NFL.

    This time of year sucks for football fans. Bring on training camp!
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    Here's an even better question for you: Why didn't you post this in the baseball forum, where you know it belongs? Otherwise, to suggest that only five members of the 25-player Boston baseball roster legitimately earn a paycheck presents a poor basis for comparison to begin with, don't you think? You'd've been better served attempting this with Bruins players, at least it's a contact sport. (By the way, thanks for posting the link to your photo. That's what I thought you looked like.)
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    Your welcome about the photo, I have others.

    Of coarse you could just ignore the thread if it gets your panties in such a bunch.

    Maybe you could read the opening post S-L-O-W-L-Y. If you did you would see that it applies to the Patriots. And the question was, in effect, how many of those overpaid, overrated, whiney baseball players could be considered to have the stuff that would rate them a "Patriot type player".

    I said maybe 5 out of 25. It might be 2 or 0.

    Feel free to start a thread about Bruins palyers if that is what you want. Another sport I could give a fart about. Or, even the NE Rev's, if you feel fit.
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    I say 'no' on Varitek. Belichick likes players who can 'hit'.

    Definitely 'yes' on Ortiz, Youkilis, Nixon, and Mirabelli.

    Certainly not Manny.
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    HAHAHA!!! Good one Jacky...... I left Mirabelli off my original list and I agree he should be added.

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