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  1. Sean Pa Patriot

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    #12 Jersey

    I know not many like him, but its great to hear the new album mixed in with MNF, glad he will be playin the super bowl..
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    Has he definitely been announced for the super bowl?

    NFLN is also promoting the heck out of the album. And not only were they playing it into every commercial tonight, they actually wrote copy for Tirico to "product place" the record.

    Is the record on a disney-capcities-ESPN owned label?

    I'm sure I'll pick it up tomorrow. He's a great performer and singer songwriters are a bit of a dying breed.

    By the way -- you have a typo in your sig.
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    God, I love Bruce.
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    #12 Jersey

    Thanks . :eek:
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    Bruce bringing the Pats to The Promised Land! Can't wait to pick up the album later today.
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    True story.

    Not long after 9/11, Springsteen needed a place to practice before setting out on a new concert tour. Security concerns being what they were, Springsteen approached a local Army base near his mansion here in NJ. He would have a supremely secure place to practice, and Springsteen would do a small show for the troops on post.

    For nearly three weeks, Springsteen practiced in the post theater. Everyday, offduty soldiers and their family members would collect outside the theater, hoping to get a glimpse of the rock star, but to no avail - security kept them away from the building.

    On the last day - the day of the show - as Springsteen and crew were whisked away by a fleet of limos, a security guard came out to the assembled soldiers and their children and said: "Mr. Springsteen has changed his mind - there will be no concert".

    He's been on my POS list ever since.

    R
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    Alarm bells on my bullsh*t meter are ringing off the charts on this one.

    First, the guy did a week and a half of practicing in convention hall in asbury park in preparation for the Rising tour, which was the only tour "not long after 9/11." Some of the rehearsals were open. In fact, the today show broadcast some of them. Fans were allowed to sit on the beach and listen, and frequently they would open the doors to let the music out or fans in. Bruce and the band would frequently show up on one of the balconies over the beach after rehearsal to talk to fans gathered there to listen. So the notion that he needed an "army base" due to security concerns not long after 9/11 is baloney. It was the most open "rehearsal" in the history of big tour rehearsals, and it's all memorialized on the Today show. Second, there were no other rehearsals for the Rising Tour. Max Weinberg had his Conan gig and Steve Van Zandt was finishing his Sopranos duty, so it was a chore just to get everyone to asbury park for the rehearsals. Third, Springsteen does not ride a limo. He drove himself to rehearsals every day. You can see dozens of fan photos from that very era all over the net, as he would stop his car before going into convention hall to sign autographs and take pictures with fans.

    This is a bullsh*t story made up by someone who did not like the stance Springsteen took in the 2004 elections.

    Edit: Just 30 seconds of googling, by the way, makes it pretty clear you're confusing Bruce Springsteen and Bon Jovi, who does do rehearsals in Fort Monmouth, who does take a limo, and who has played and not played mini-concerts for the troops at various times.
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    Springsteen belongs in the 'all things New Jersey suck' folder...
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    Same here. To add to your points, I wanted to mention that Springsteen has used the theater at the Fort Monmouth base near his home as a rehearsal space for decades, as has Jon Bon Jovi and probably others. The 9/11 "security" bit doesn't hold water.
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    a) Your so called "bull**** meter" is dead wrong, because I myself was one of the people standing outside the post theater for hours in the heat with my 11 year old stepson. It was a pretty big scandal in the area at the time.

    b) Your are a pretty poor googler if you can't find this reference in Time magazine in 30 seconds: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,332037-3,00.html

    c) The Jersey shore area where Springsteen got his start has been annoyed with Springsteen for a long time. The consensus here is that he pretty much abandoned his roots and went hollywood a long time ago.

    d) Obviously, the only person confused is you and your hate for anything that conflicts with your preconceived world-view. I would expect an apology, but somehow I don't think thats coming.

    R
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    Thanks for confirming he was there, which the previous idiot doesn't want to admit. The reason he goes there is so that 10,000 fans cant besiege the place where they are practicing. I nevere said that he had never been there - but the fact is the only other time he was there in my memory was in 88. They gave out tickets to soldiers back then for 1 or 2 practice sessions.

    The issue here is not whether it happened or not. The issue is that someone that portrays himself as a "blue collar American" reneged on his offer to let soldiers and family into the concert. At the time, there was a whole infantry company (100+ soldiers) pulling security at the base, complete with dug-in machine gun positions and HUMVEEs with loaded machine guns patrolling the base 24x7.

    It just seemed so f'd up that a guy that was supposed to be such a hero wouldn't take a little time out for the troops who were protecting him and their families. Like I said, it was a pretty big scandal in the community here.

    Enough of the "home town boy". Give me Hank Williams Jr. any day of the week.

    R
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    I don't have a preconceived world view. I also don't believe the story, although I'll accept the time story and what patchick says to the effect that he practiced in fort monmouth. The part about limos and stiffing the troops sounds like the typical conservative bulls8it that was all over the internet after Springsteen took a side in the 2004 election.

    I don't know about the "went hollywood" stuff. I don't even know what it means. What is "abandoned his roots"? You want him to drink beer at your house with you?

    He's an entertainer. He writes songs and sells them and then goes out and sells tickets for concerts. Along the way, he tries to be thoughtful about things that matter to him. What do you expect of him that he hasn't given you? What exactly does he owe to you as a fellow citizen of your region of the country?
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    Still sounds like a bull**** story to me, even if he was there. I'm not saying he didn't play for you. I'm saying it sounds like a ****-up. Do you know for a fact he made a deal for a free concert? Do you know for a fact that he welched on it?

    The guy has given free concerts all over the US. But he refuses to do it in New Jersey? Not likely. And you don't know who came down in the end and said what. Bruce railing against the Iraq War and then playing on an Army base isn't going to make him popular there.

    The guy is anything but Hollywood. Still works his butt off and give his fans a 3 hour show...in his 50s. Still isn't afraid to speak out and put himself on the line. He's pretty much the antithesis of Hollywood. You have it wrong on this one.
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    Never mind. I see now that your musical sensibilities are determined solely by politics.
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    This would be a great theory, save for one little fact that: HE PLAYED FENWAY PARK.

    I was there, and don't recall being turned away.....
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    I think the thing that bothered me most about what happened that day was the fact that he reneged on performing precisely because he *could* do it. No one was going to know or care about those soldiers or their children getting their hopes dashed.

    I think the true measure of a man is what he does when he knows no one will find out.

    I also think it's ironic that he did it just as he was about to cash in on 9/11 with that album and tour. When he went abortively political in 2004, no one here was surprised. Just disappointed.

    One interesting note: this concert tour was also preceded by a series of rehearsals. Except this time, instead of Fort Monmouth - he used the new Asbury Park Convention Center. Of course to see those rehearsals - you had to pay for admission.

    What a guy.

    R
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    I shouldn't have to explain this to a supposed football fan, but I was referring to Hank Williams Jr.'s opening sequences for Monday Night Football.

    Is there anyone posting on this thread that isn't a mouth-breather ?

    R
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    Is he doing halftime of the SB?
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    So, you're judging Bruce on his football foray alone? Not on his career?

    This is all I needed to hear from you: when he went political in 2004, no one here was surprised. Just disappointed.

    Uh, hello. he's been political his whole career. From start to finish. Why did you bring your stepson there? Didn't YOU realize that Bruce has always thoughT the rich stick it to the poor, that the union man gets no respect, that Vietnam was a sham, that military commanders use their grunts without regard, that the justice system leaves much to be desired, that premarital sex ain't such a bad thing, that police shouldn't blow 28 holes into unarmed men, etc.. His music is shot through with these themes from beginning to end. I mean, why are you surprised?
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