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Think we ought to bring him here? We have plenty of picks to trade with.
I wouldn't trade much for a returner no matter how good he is
He wants a big deal. He doesnt bring enough to the table to justify the bread he is looking for. Not for this team anyway.
Can he learn how to play wide receiver?
He is a WR.
Mulligan time ........
Nah, we already got our own Kent State QB at WR
Although, the versatility is tempting, with his play as WR, Wildcat QB, returner, and on the coverage team. He did have 3 ST TDs and 9 ST tackles last season...
Are you guys serious? Why wouldnt you want a player of his caliber if he can be had?
ST's ACE!!! WR and RB who can also take snaps from center.
How many of you love Kevin faulk again?
I guess no one saw highlights of Cribbs against the Jags last week.
He was a factor in just about every phase of the Browns offense.
Those who don't want a hard nosed player who does it for a team hard and consistent and a team that was not going anywhere is retarded IMO,Cribbs would be more than just STs here..guaranteed
He likely want lots of money. We won't pay that for a receiver and Special teamer. Besides, Cleveland isn't likely to let him go.
Well, we know he can return kicks, but how is he as a WR? I honestly don't watch their team enough to know. I would imagine he's pulling a 'Hester', and wants a ton of money, which BB would unlikely give him.
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Seems like all he is asking for is about 2.5 to maybe 3-3.5 million a year, doesnt seem too much considering he is the best return man in the game, and could also play spot dute as a HB and WR.
No question he would help this team. Question is, where do you want to spend that money? G? OLB? A more proven WR?
A STer like Cribbs would be an immense boost to this team, but would he have as big an impact as a WR as other FA's/draftees? I could really see how 2-3 million/year would be a fair price, though.
Even Welker didn't help the Dolphins as much as Cribbs helps the Browns
The Browns are low-balling him (they've apparently offered him a $1.5M take it or leave it deal) - we should be straight in there.
The effect he'd have on the starting field position, and even in the passing game would be well worth the money. The Pats would find a way for him to be effective.
Go get him Billy boy!
The Patriots are not going to trade for him, not when they already have a guy on the roster who can do what he does.
Are people forgetting about Brandon Tate already? He was only one of the best NCAA returners and who has shown that he can be a good returner in his short time active with the team.
If he's only looking for 2.5-3.5 its a steel. Saw him against Steelers and he did everything for them. Returns were awsome. Got 80 yards from carries (7) and contributed and 40-50 yard from catches. And he's had that sort of game 4-5 times this season.
A no brainer for that amount of cash.
3M a year for the best return man in the game today? Yes please. Will the Browns take a 3rd round pick for him?
I don't think people are forgetting, but we havent seen Tate do anything yet. Next year, he'll still be basically a rookie, who has knee issues. Im hoping he is as advertised, but im not assuming anything until he hits the field.
I would doubt they would, but even i would say heck yeah to that trade.
I'm weary of giving big money to ANY kick returner who hasn't proven himself as a consistent weapon on offense. Remember Dante Hall? He was an electrifying return man for the Chiefs, then got paid his big payday, and didn't live up to it.
I'm not saying Cribbs doesn't deserve his pay raise (he certainly does), and yeah, it'd be great to have him here, but I'd rather the Pats not be the ones to foot the bill for a KR.
I'm glad you brought up Faulk. He's going to need a replacement soon.
Pats would be fools not to make an effort to acquire Josh Cribbs. I'm sure that they would contemplate this.
Well, if you want Cribbs, pray that Holmgren fires Ratgini, because I can't see Belichick making any deals with the Rat.
I'm not worried about Rat-man. All final decisions on personnel go through Holmgren now. I'm sure he'll try to salvage Cribbs anyway.
I do like how Cribbs has been improving offensively. Hes not close to the kind of receiver Faulk is but he ran the ball a few times and caught some passes. He had 6 TDs this past year. I guess he seems worth $3m a year?
You also have to remember what great QB has he had to work with? NONE.....Bring him in, give him a complete offseason with Brady and i am sure with his speed and athleticism he will be effective on offense.....Plus the kick return aspect is just SICK
Sure, as long as it's a package deal that includes Jerome Harrison.
I say go for it... with a big grain of salt. If you're able to nab him for a 3rd rounder, and can get him for around 2.5 per, that's probably good. Any more than that, and you're spending a lot on a fair number of unknowns:
1) Can he play consistent on offense? Remember, it's not only CAN he, but WOULD he in our system. Galloway, Hayes, Lewis, Gabriel... there's no guarantee even a more regular WR will catch on here.
2) How effective a returner is he really? Kick returns are as much about the blocking in front of you as it is about the returner's ability. No doubt he's got great speed, quickness, and vision, but how will it translate to our ST unit?
It would seem that BB's relationship with Mangini and the browns in general would make completing this trade difficult.
Cribbs is a dynamic player, but like others have mentioned, will he fit in this system? What will he bring to the table with the Patriots?
If it's just his return abilities, then 2.5 mil over 3 years and giving up a 2nd or 3rd rounder is too much. If he is able to run routes, stretch the field, can also be a wrinkle in the run game, and return kicks, then yes, do it. What helps him is that he is a former QB and unlike Hester, develops his offensive skills quicker then most. Not a knock against Hester who made the transition from return specialist to WR and a pretty darn good one.
But if the Browns put him up for trade, they are idiots. And there will be a couple of teams with younger or newer offenses where Cribbs might go and develop with that offense. Chiefs, Dolphins, Redskins, Texans, Packers, and Bears.
Oh, and greatest (and saddest) comment for a Browns fan:
Great he will going to another team and win the super bowl on a returned kick or punt. I have seen this before. Earnest Byner goes to the skins after the fumble, wins the Super Bowl. History of my favorite team.
BB and Holmgren have done business before- see Branch to Seattle.
I'm not aware of any discord b/t/w Holmgren and BB. They are both old school.
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