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New York Jets suspend Sal Alosi indefinitely for ordering wall - ESPN New York
What a crock. Since when is a strength coach dictating anything? I never thought the 'lineup" was planned. But now that the evidence is in that it was, this had to be an order from the ST coach or higher.
Fair is fair. Dock the Jets a First Round draft pick, and fine the Team $750,000, that they agitated for as punishment just for the filming in the wrong location. What goes around, comes around...
I wonder how much they are paying him to keep his mouth shut.
All one has to do is look at the screen stills to see that Rex Ryan is standing 5 feet to the left and in back of the gauntlet. He didn't "hear" anything when the S+C Assistant "took over" and directed and positioned personnel on the sideline right in front of the HC???????
Who believes this???????????
Before Babelfish's NFL coverup translator:
Roger Jetdell will never allow that to happen to his beloved Jets.
Here's the thing: we are to believe that a strength and conditioning coach decided to do this on his own? Not the special teams coach, not a coordinator, not the head coach - and this "new" information only comes out after all the videos and stills that included their head coach right behind them, and then his denial of being aware of what they were doing?
Or maybe this is a case of Alosi first being thrown under the bus, and just as he was getting up the bus backed up and ran him over again.
Something smells very fishy around ST coach Westhoff ...
And now it is time for
Who ordered the code red (wall formation)?
Strength coach Sal Alosi aka Lt. Jonathan Kendrick
Head coach Rex Ryan aka Col. Nathan R. Jessep
Commissioner Roger Goodell aka Lt. Daniel Kaffee
Rex Ryan cut his guys loose!!!
Goodell: And when it went bad, you cut these guys *loose!* You coerced the doctor...
Capt: Your honor!
Goodell: You doctored the log book!...
Capt: *Darn it, Roger!*
Judge: *Consider yourself in Contempt!*
Goodell: *Coach Rex Ryan, did you order the Code Red?*
Judge: You *don't* have to answer that question!
Rex Ryan: I'll answer the question!
Rex Ryan: You want answers?
Goodell: I think I'm entitled.
Col. Jessep: *You want answers?*
Goodell: *I want the truth!*
Rex Ryan: *You can't handle the truth!*
How much do you wanna bet that Alosi gets a six figure job at Johnson and Johnson.
It's almost always the cover-up that does you in, more so than the actual "crime".
A fish rots from the head.......
To tell you the truth, I find this whole story overblown (I felt that way about Spygate too). But is sure fun watching the Jets squirm and listening to Holier than Thou Jets fans try to explain how this cheating wasn't really cheating.
The story was going away, all they had to do was wait it out, now they bring it out to the front of the news again? The hell
He might not have any choice if enough noise is made about this.
Why is he being suspended for this? I understand suspending him for tripping the guy, but how is telling your players to form a wall out of bounds on the sideline against the rules?
Iâ€™m assuming that information would not have led to his indefinite suspension (by his own team no less) unless the wall was created with the purpose he used it for.
It's also fun to read around about this on other team messageboards....lots of hate for the Jets out there.
Its against the rule that specifically states the coaches and substitutes aren't allowed to impede the movement of players. They directly planned to get in his way.
You're supposed to get a 15 yard unsportsmanship penalty for "Palpably unfair acts"
The coaches have a specific area they need to be in, away from the playing field, and saying their lining up (but staying completely within) that area is impeding opposing players is going way too far. The wall was legal as long as it stayed an immobile wall.
The suspension was for tripping, the lengthening of the suspension was for lying about it.
No, the coaches do not NEED to be in that area. They are the only people ALLOWED in that area. Those are two very different statements.
Practice squad players are not allowed (and were) in there.
The coaches have the obligation to get out of the way of a player blocked out of bounds. The wall is specifically illegal because it was there for the purpose of changing where the player could run. The rules specifically state that any impeding of a player's motion by a substitute or coach is a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty.
This was a premeditated penalty committed by the coaches.
A few weeks ago, the Broncos "walk-through videotaping incident" and last weekend this "phalanx-gate" incident. The common theme with these incidents is that one individual was singled out in each instance and was made to fall on the sword in order for the Broncos and Jets organizations to save face.
The point is not whether Scar Jr. and Alosi acted of their own volition (I find it hard to believe that either did), but that both organizations threw each man under the bus by portraying them as "lone wolves" who performed egregious acts right under the noses of their ignorant superiors.
Belichick and the Patriots organization did no such thing when the team was caught filming defensive signals from a location that was (ambiguously) mandated as off limits. Belichick took the blame, yet is constantly vilified by the media.
I've reached the point where I am highly dubious about anything uttered or printed by the mainstream media these days. This is because more often than not, it is larded with opinion, hearsay, innuendo, half-truths, and lies, which are all passed off as fact. It is merely polemical speech or prose that is designed to inflame emotion in order to push an agenda, and is decidedly unscientific and void any factual research, data, and evidence.
(Sorry about the slight tendency to ramble on and rant in this post, but there were some things I wanted to vent about that I have held in for a while now).
What comes around really does go around....
The problem with Jetdell's attempts to sweep this under the rug is that the Jest don't know when to shut the hell up. You can always count on the Jest to say more than they need to and, in this case, it's hopefully going to cost them. After what happened to the Pats and our fanbase, I don't feel bad for anything that happens like this to another team, especially the Jest.
Don't apologize. This was a great post.
Alosi came out and said he did this on his own, that hes responsible, thats very hard to believe. I find it implausible that a strength coach would do something like this on his own without the head coach or at least the Special teams coach condoning it. Its BS, and for Goodell just to ignore it lessons his integrity as commissioner.
Its obviously a cover up for rex
I'm a nong time lurker (I actually used to post a few years ago) and I saw this on another forum and I thought it was an interesting tidbit.
Jenny Vrentas (JennyVrentas) on Twitter
So from that little quote we know that the Jets have been using this tactic all season, and there were players lined up not just coaches (and of course they try and pin it on Alosi).
This begs the question, if this has been going on all season or longer how has Rex and Westoff and the other coaches not seen or heard anything about it? I mean during the tripping incident Rex is standing right there watching them. Have they never watched any video of their own games?
If anyone has a line to someone in the sports media, you should point this out to them. Especially considering how the Jets now want to say forming the wall isn't a big deal and point a finger at the Patriots but they've increased the Alosi's punishment which implies there is something illegal there.
I think ... you ... just ... blew my mind
LOL, these guys have such big mouths. It all starts with their coach, who just can't shut up ever. And now, when it would be better to just not talk at all, they literally can't do it.
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