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  1. PatsWickedPissah

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    Jp2 tosses "Da Prince" into a cold tub. Prince not happy.
    "You gotta stand up for yourself man!"
    WARNING: Language

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    Maybe what they say about Nigerians being soft is true.
     
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    He didn't look to happy about it.

    JP picked up 200 pds like a sack of flour though
     
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    That JPP guy is a trouble maker. We should help the Giants out by offering to trade Ron Brace for him:

    Quick-hit thoughts around NFL & Pats - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston
     
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    Not cool.

    Coughlin says he’ll look into cold-tub incident | ProFootballTalk

    HazingGate gogogo
     
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    Nah make him serve the 4 games playing for the browns...maybe he'll understand what he has after that.
     
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    There are a lot of conflicting opinions here, at least for me. I get rookie hazing...it makes sense to try and deflate a new guy's head a bit. But JPP repeatedly doing that to someone (not even a rookie anymore) who he is bigger/stronger than is bullying, pure and simple. I don't care if "trying to toughen him up" is the 'reason' for doing this, it's just plain *****ty. If Prince snaps and goes Beecher (Oz reference for those that haven't seen it) on JPP one day I will applaud him.

    People these days are too quick to just post something somewhere on the internet with out thinking of the consequences. What did the punter gain from posting this? To humiliate Prince more? I got news for you, punter guy...the Giants opposing QB's are licking their chops now seeing how Prince got punked out like that and did nothing about it. It's a shame Brady hadn't heard about this before the Super Bowl, whoever Prince was covering would have broken SB records.

    Goodell just letting this go is complete crap. He suspended Saints players for doing less to opponents and with less evidence, yet he calls this a "club matter". I'm not saying Goodell favors the Giants, it's just that his suspension/fine process is MADDENING. Everything seems like decisions he makes based on how his day is going so far. "My bagel was stale...fine the Patriots! Man, that was a good slice of pizza I had for lunch...Braylon Edwards DUI is no big deal." I can't freakin figure this guy out.
     
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    New York Hazing Law

    § 120.16 Hazing in the first degree.
    A person is guilty of hazing in the first degree when, in the course of another person's initiation into or affiliation with any organization,he intentionally or recklessly engages in conduct which creates a substantial risk of physical injury to such other person or a third person and thereby causes such injury.

    Hazing in the first degree is a class A misdemeanor.

    § 120.17 Hazing in the second degree.

    A person is guilty of hazing in the second degree when, in the course of another person's initiation or affiliation with any organization, he intentionally or recklessly engages in conduct which creates a substantial risk of physical injury to such other person or a third person.

    Hazing in the second degree is a violation.
     
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    “Yeah, um, well, I mean, I just don’t get it. I don’t understand the rules,” Amukamara told Garafolo. “I mean, I’m not a rookie anymore, so I don’t know why I’m getting thrown in the tub. I know it’s all love.”

    Apparently, Amukamara has been a regular target for hazing or harassment or whatever the appropriate word is. He said he landed in the cold tub eight times last year, and he had his shirt and tie cut. Garafolo writes that players have been trying to get Amukamara to “develop an edge.”

    As to the latest incident, Amukamara is confused as to the reason for the dunking. “I don’t think I did [anything to provoke it],” Amukamara said. “I don’t think I did. Ask them.”


    I really don't like Jp2's actions....
    However these comments by the Prince do read to me that he's a bit of a weenie and probably DOES need to develop an edge to succeed in the NFL. Jp2 is a bully. I kinda liked the guy, even with a French name before this.
     
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    Ian Rapoport weighs in on tubgate:


    Why that cold tub video with the Giants and Prince Amukamara wasn’t funny at all - NFL.com

    Good read on a sad situation.
     
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    I hope this doesn't turn into a big deal. It happens at every NFL team (just watch Hard Knocks) and should be kept internal. Nobody is getting hurt minus some feelings.
     
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    I would not be a fan of any Pats big guy who year after year picked on a far smaller player embarrassing him in front of the team. I'd like to think that coaches and vet leaders here keep horseplay in bounds. This repeated dunking of The Prince is out of bounds.
     
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    I agree if it's true. Hopefully Coughlin will take care of it and I'd be surprised if he didn't know about happening repeatedly.
     
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    Well who would have ever known that Rexxy and Mike Westhoff were unaware that their coaches were lining up on their sidelines and tripping opposing players?

    They weren't aware, Omissioner Badell said so.

    :confused2:
     
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    haha thats where i went to college and played ball...been in that hall many a time
     
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    It happens to rookies, though. Not second year players. I feel bad for Amukamara. Maybe he should stand up to JPP and punch him in the mouth. With that said, he should be expecting a beat-down afterward, but at least JPP would probably think twice before he threw him into the tub again...
     
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    Coughlin is upset but moreso about not keeping it in house. He apparently thought he made it clear to them before camp that he didn't want their business or their antics featured on social media. The part he hasn't seemed to grasp yet is the negative message being sent by members of a league doing PSA's about bullying and harassment.
     
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    Coughlin seemed a lot more upset about losing Jake Ballard.
     
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