OT: Galloway to Steelers

[Deus Irae]

Actually I AGREE with Tomlin's call on the onside kick. And there's plenty he does that I DON'T agree with. But if you've followed the Steelers much this season (or over the past several seasons actually), you'd see that they are historically AWFUL when it comes to giving up big plays in the clutch at the end of games. AND their 2 minute drill has been lackluster this season to say the least. SO, with that mind...best case scenerio, we get the ball (who is expecting an onside kick in that situation?) and milk the clock out and get away with a win. Worst case scenerio was exactly how it played out. GB recovers and scores (although they would've likely been MUCH happier with a FG). BUT at least there's a good chance you'll have some clock to work with to drive down the field and score yourself. Had the Steelers lost, people would be analyzing/criticizing Tomlin's decision for years to come, but I'd STILL stand by my opinion that it was a good, gutsy call in that situation.

The Steelers return teams were sucking ass for a lot of the season, too, and I think that a lot of people overlooked that.

 

[Triggerfish]

The Steelers return teams were sucking ass for a lot of the season, too, and I think that a lot of people overlooked that.

Another good point. Realistically, there's a LOT of reasons why it could be considered a reasonable (if not genius) call.

Thanks for pointing out the STs issues. You're right...I did leave that out.

 

[tombonneau]

He should do fine in that offense: Run around until Ben decides to throw the ball.

 

[CGH TX PATS]

Who cares, he stunk while with us

 

[upstater1]

in case you guys haven't figured it out, it's obvious why they are doing this. If Pittsburgh gets in as a 6 seed, Galloway will have all the dirt on the Pats -their likely opponent. it's kind of like how the jets got info from kevin o'connell. there is simply no other explanation.

Galloway wasn't paying attention

 

[upstater1]

I wrote this in the other Steelers thread:

Pittsburgh's chances are a lot slimmer than I thought. They have basically no chance of getting in.

Check out rule #1 of the tiebreaker to understand why Pitt is sunk:

1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.

So, if Pitt and Baltimore are tied at 9-7, Baltimore advances to the wild-card tie-breaker with other 9-7 teams while Pitt is left behind. (Pitt and Baltimore will have split their season series, and Pitt's division record is 1-4 right now, so they lose the division tie-breaker to Baltimore each time).

Here is where things get tricky for Pittsburgh, and where Baltimore screws Pitt badly.

#2 tie-breaker is a head-to-head sweep

The head to head sweep is tossed out the window because no team has swept two of the possible contenders head to head.

#3 tie-breaker is conference record

Weirdly enough, most teams except finish with a 7-5 record in conference (Pitt and Tenn can't match that conference record, while Jax would be top of class at 8-4). So, you go to the next tie-breaker.

#4 is won-loss percentage against common opponents with a minimum of four.

This tie-breaker only came into play with Denver, and both teams finished 2-3 against Pitt, New England, San Diego and Indy.

So....

#5 Strength of victory.

This is where Baltimore truly screws Pittsburgh up badly. In any wild-card tie-breaker, Baltimore represents the AFC North wild card candidates, and in any wild card scenario, the #5 strength-of-victory tie-breaker will determine the first wild-card spot. Baltimore loses each and every time against all teams. Their strength of victory record is 47-79. They beat a lot of bad teams.

So, whoever is locked with Baltimore in the wild-card tie-breaker gets in ahead of Baltimore (except for Tennessee, but Tennessee drops out early in wild card scenarios, they are as screwed as Pittsburgh).

So, after the first wild-card seed is determined, you start all over again, and guess what? Baltimore represents the AFC North again while Pittsburgh sits out. You go through the tie-breakers again, and Baltimore loses again!

For Pittsburgh to get in, Baltimore MUST lose to Oakland. Jax, Miami, the Jets an Houston all beat Balt (and therefore Pitt) if tied at 9-7. Denver is practically a shoe-in at this point. Baltimore has to win both of its last 2 games to get in. After Denver, Jacksonville has the best shot of getting in.

If Jax beats the Patriots on Sunday, they're in IMO.

Pitt is virtually eliminated unless Baltimore loses to Oakland.

 

[Triggerfish]

I wrote this in the other Steelers thread:

Pittsburgh's chances are a lot slimmer than I thought. They have basically no chance of getting in.

Check out rule #1 of the tiebreaker to understand why Pitt is sunk:


So, if Pitt and Baltimore are tied at 9-7, Baltimore advances to the wild-card tie-breaker with other 9-7 teams while Pitt is left behind. (Pitt and Baltimore will have split their season series, and Pitt's division record is 1-4 right now, so they lose the division tie-breaker to Baltimore each time).

Here is where things get tricky for Pittsburgh, and where Baltimore screws Pitt badly.



The head to head sweep is tossed out the window because no team has swept two of the possible contenders head to head.



Weirdly enough, most teams except finish with a 7-5 record in conference (Pitt and Tenn can't match that conference record, while Jax would be top of class at 8-4). So, you go to the next tie-breaker.



This tie-breaker only came into play with Denver, and both teams finished 2-3 against Pitt, New England, San Diego and Indy.

So....



This is where Baltimore truly screws Pittsburgh up badly. In any wild-card tie-breaker, Baltimore represents the AFC North wild card candidates, and in any wild card scenario, the #5 strength-of-victory tie-breaker will determine the first wild-card spot. Baltimore loses each and every time against all teams. Their strength of victory record is 47-79. They beat a lot of bad teams.

So, whoever is locked with Baltimore in the wild-card tie-breaker gets in ahead of Baltimore (except for Tennessee, but Tennessee drops out early in wild card scenarios, they are as screwed as Pittsburgh).

So, after the first wild-card seed is determined, you start all over again, and guess what? Baltimore represents the AFC North again while Pittsburgh sits out. You go through the tie-breakers again, and Baltimore loses again!

For Pittsburgh to get in, Baltimore MUST lose to Oakland. Jax, Miami, the Jets an Houston all beat Balt (and therefore Pitt) if tied at 9-7. Denver is practically a shoe-in at this point. Baltimore has to win both of its last 2 games to get in. After Denver, Jacksonville has the best shot of getting in.

If Jax beats the Patriots on Sunday, they're in IMO.

Pitt is virtually eliminated unless Baltimore loses to Oakland.

No, I believe you have it wrong. If the Steelers, Ravens, and Broncos are all THREE tied, the Ravens take the #5 spot, the Steelers get in at #6, and Denver is eliminated. They're common opponents and the Steelers own the head-to-head tiebreaker.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Re: Galloway to Steelers.

Yeah, I don't think the Steelers have complicated routes or a lot of presnap reads.

Yeah, it's sort of like Ben gets them together in the huddle, they talk about girls in the stands for a little while and then he says, "OK, youse five big guys can't run much anyway so youse stay back to block, everybody else run around downfield and I'll stay upright long enough to hit the first man who's open. On two!" Clap!

 

[oldskool138]

Re: Galloway to Steelers.

Yeah, it's sort of like Ben gets them together in the huddle, they talk about girls in the stands for a little while...

Or how cool it is to ride high-performance motorcycles with no helmet.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Re: Galloway to Steelers.

Or how cool it is to ride high-performance motorcycles with no helmet.

Yeah, that too!

 

[upstater1]

No, I believe you have it wrong. If the Steelers, Ravens, and Broncos are all THREE tied, the Ravens take the #5 spot, the Steelers get in at #6, and Denver is eliminated. They're common opponents and the Steelers own the head-to-head tiebreaker.

No, read #1 tiebreaker.

It's IMPOSSIBLE for the Steelers to be in a three way tiebreaker that includes Baltimore.

 

[Triggerfish]

No, read #1 tiebreaker.

It's IMPOSSIBLE for the Steelers to be in a three way tiebreaker that includes Baltimore.

I just ran it through Yahoo's Playoff Scenerio Generator and the Steelers WILL get the 6th seed if the following happens:

1) Steelers win out
2) Denver drops one game
3) Jets drop one game
4) Jacksonville drops one game

Here's the link...run it yourself....

NFL - Playoff Scenario Generator- Yahoo! Sports

 

[Dino 6 Rings]

Galloway will be the 4th WR only. They actually used Logan and Moore last week in the 4 and 5 wide sets.