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    Re: Freeman: Greatest of all time? Manning's case takes serious hit

    The Colts didn't learn from the 2007 Pats SB loss that media idiocy of proclaiming champions before the game does seep down to the players. In fact Polian/Dungy even made it worse.
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    Re: Freeman: Greatest of all time? Manning's case takes serious hit

    For once I'll be interested in seeing what Peter King has to say. He's the biggest Manning peter puffer of them all.
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    Re: Freeman: Greatest of all time? Manning's case takes serious hit

    Freeman is a jackass. Peyton Manning played great nearly every minute he was on the field, which admittedly were few. The interception for a TD was a game-killer, but Manning was in a bad situation already. I honestly think there was a huge mistake on the play -- Wayne was moving like he wasn't expecting the ball at all.

    Sean Payton put it all on the line tonight, making some incredibly gutsy calls -- much like Bill Belichick did -- and it paid off.

    As much as Brees deserved the MVP, so did Sean Payton. Really impressive stuff.
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    Re: Freeman: Greatest of all time? Manning's case takes serious hit

    manning will never be the best ever now
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    Re: Freeman: Greatest of all time? Manning's case takes serious hit

    What's taken a serious hit is the legitmacy of the media.
    How does one game make or break the case for a player being the greatest of all time??
    Only mediots think this way. Out here in the intelligent world we look at the whole career of a player and wait until that career has ended and the record completed before making such pronouncements.
    meIdiots!!! :rolleyes:
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    Re: Freeman: Greatest of all time? Manning's case takes serious hit

    Are you ******* kidding me? Down 1 score with approximately 3 minutes 30 seconds or so and he's in a bad situation? That's when Manning should thrive and does during the regular season.

    That was the game right there.
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    Re: Freeman: Greatest of all time? Manning's case takes serious hit

    More than anything, this shows me how stupid the media are. All week they praise him for being the greatest of all time and all it takes is one play, and you loose it all.
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    Re: Freeman: Greatest of all time? Manning's case takes serious hit

    Damn apologist ball-washer. Manning was "in a bad situation already"? Being down one score with 3:42 is when the great ones step up, not hand the game away.
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    Re: Freeman: Greatest of all time? Manning's case takes serious hit

    Manning panicked and threw the ball where he wasn't suppose when he wasn't suppose to in the biggest moment of his career.
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    Re: Freeman: Greatest of all time? Manning's case takes serious hit

    People over react to everything. They always want to say someone is the best ever, or that what they watching is the best thing ever.

    In 07, all you saw during the season was how Brady is the best QB of all time. When the Patriots lost the superbowl, all that went away. The same thing happened this year with Manning.

    If losing one game- even if it is the superbowl, causes you to change your mind about someone being the best ever, you never really thought that he was the best ever to begin with.
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    Re: Freeman: Greatest of all time? Manning's case takes serious hit

    Actually, what we saw in 2007 was "Has Brady surpassed Manning as the best QB ever/in the game right now. . . ." :p:mad:
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    Re: Freeman: Greatest of all time? Manning's case takes serious hit


    He threw at least four pickable passes; the one that sealed the game, the horribly underthrown bomb, the terrible out route, and the one that got picked off in the endzone (the only reason it didn't count was because of the offensive PI).

    He made a couple of nice throws, but at no point was he great.
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    Re: Freeman: Greatest of all time? Manning's case takes serious hit

    I don't remember anyone calling Tom a choker when he threw the horrific champ bailey pick or failed on numerous opportunities to put the Colts away in 2006 (famously missing Troy Brown on a similar play to Manning's pick). Look, both QB's are in the pantheon of the greatest QB's to ever play. It's silly to think that it can be objectively determined which is better. Disparaging them for the very, very rare bad plays they do make is just as silly.
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    Re: Freeman: Greatest of all time? Manning's case takes serious hit


    This isn't about just yesterday. Manning has a history of playoff chokedom, of saving his worst for the biggest, brightest stages.

    Saying that his playoff foibles are "very, very rare" is truly revisionist.
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    Re: Freeman: Greatest of all time? Manning's case takes serious hit

    It literally took Rex Grossman for Manning to win a ring. This article is spot on
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    Re: Freeman: Greatest of all time? Manning's case takes serious hit

    I agree with the comments in here about the idiocy of the media, and how one game doesn't determine the GOAT issue. Having said that, I was glad to see Manning and the Colts lose for any number of reasons, including the fact that now we won't have to listen about Manning being the GOAT for the next six months (and, not incidentally, we will hopefully be spared another wave of comeercials with Manning in them.)
    Despite his impressive regular season stats and trophies, I don't see how Manning, with his repeated post season failures, can be considered the GOAT.
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    Re: Freeman: Greatest of all time? Manning's case takes serious hit

    How much longer will we have to listen to the butt kissing of Manning???...It's probably still not over yet...face it the "rule" is that he's a choke artist...the "exception" is when he played the pitifull Bears for a SB win.

    ...League MVP again?...even though Breese had better stats two years in a row...Butt Kissers...
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    Re: Freeman: Greatest of all time? Manning's case takes serious hit

    Can't agree at all. I do think Manning has a much bigger tendency to choke the bit.
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    Re: Freeman: Greatest of all time? Manning's case takes serious hit

    The media may be idiotic, but they'll continue to be idiotic because they play right into fan's mentality. They are salesman. That's it.

    so, reading these articles is simply a case of shadenfredue. The Patriots have been on the bad side of this, and they will continue to take shots from the media. These articles, even from mediots like freedom, simply balance out the ledger.
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