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  1. muslimman

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    So its the bye week and Im sure most on here are tired of talking about Talib... So I thought Id post this hilarious video about finding the Next Next (you read that right) Wes Welker. If you are easily offended by racial humor you might not find it as funny but I think its well done and spot on!

    Click here for gut-wrenching laughter!

    :D
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    That first Amendola photo at 0:18. . . . :eek:
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    Tavon Austin 2013 NFL draftee from WVU might be a great slot WR,I am hoping the pats look at this guy.
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    Funny stuff.

    "and then there's the other thing they have in common...they both went to Texas Tech":D
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    Josh Lenz out of Iowa State has some potential too. Hopefully not only do the Pats look into these guys but the other 31 teams continue to devalue them.
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    Don't forget Ryan Swope.
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    how am i just now seeing this
  8. muslimman

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    Thats what I was thinking only 9k views... this guy has got "deceptive" humor.
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    Most offensive coordinators do not know how to effectively use a short but quick WR with good hands and punter returner run-after-catch ability, no matter what their skin color.

    Ten years ago if Antwaan Randel El was used the way Wes has been used, Randel El could have been a better pro than he was anyway (and he was a good PR and decent WR). Trouble is, most guys get stuck playing outside the numbers, and it tough to be 5'9" or 5'10" and create much room to make a catch our there. In space, though, is a different story.
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    With the Pats running a multi-TE offense the value of a slot receiver is diminished. What they need are guys who can play outside the numbers to complement their collection of TEs.
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    If i were an edelman fan, my response would be: the next wes welker is already on the team.

    I'm actually not as concerned about finding the next welker since we already have gronk/hernandez in the middle of the field. 3 competent to good receivers -- whether outside or slot -- is all we really need. anything more is extra
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    Between Edelman, Woodhead, and Hernandez I think we have the inside receiver covered
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    they are going to need someone to come in and get those 1,000 yards and 80+ grabs...don't know who..but they will need him next year when welker is gone..


    just hope he doesn't go to the jets..

    The next welker isn't on this team
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    Being from nearby the Iowa State campus, I often follow their games and yes, this guy has shown alot of potential especially vs. TCU a few weeks back when he caught 3 TD's. My only issue is he's been somewhat inconsistent and really gets heavily overshadowed by all of the other prospects in this draft.

    It'd be nice to see a guy from there go to New England, but there's so many other options out there.
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    Totally agree. Just don't understand the people that say this team doesn't need Welker.
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    This is complete garbage, Welker is once again having a huge season and proving all those who continually devalue him completely full of crap.

    The answer to this thread is that you don't replace Welker, he's too good. You can get another slot WR, you won't get anyone nearly as good , and the loss would be huge. Those who say otherwise don't know what the hell they are talking about, and that has been demonstrated over and over and over and over..............
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    That must be why Welker is dominating once again, because the rest have been so good. I swear to god this is the dumbest fan base on earth.
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    Well 2 of the 3 being injured might have something to do with it.

    EDIT: Not to say that welker is not awesome. But I think if you are going to try and "replace" him it makes more sense to look for an outside receiver instead of a welker2
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    They say it becasue they know he will be gone next year..i still see them as a top 5 O in the league without him..but those 1,000 80+ will need to be taken over or find someone that can do it...not many out there so i am guessing someone will have to take it over
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    Yeah sure... that's why Wes is on pace for another 100+ catch 1400+ yard year. I've heard those arguments a million times and Welker is still killing it.

    The question is not whether Welker can be successful in the slot or would be successful for other teams. We know he can, he's a flat out great WR. The question is a cost/benefit analysis.

    Are we willing to pay Welker big money or are we willing to accept a downgrade to say a Julian Edelman or Salas and spend his money in other areas, such as a free agent CB or passrusher.

    That video was quite funny btw. "Don't be surprised if the Pats end up with an all black coaching staff and all white WR corps. Why? Because your irrationality allows me to take advantage of crazy savings!"
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    It's absolutely a cost-benefit analysis - and there's no question that Brady has a huge comfort level with Welker.

    But hypothetically if Brady were ever on a team where the best WR was say, someone like Reche Caldwell I'd guarantee they'd get about 60+ catches as well.

    I love Welker - but for an expensive long-term contract, with many other slot/mid-range options already on the team, I'd spend my money elsewhere.

    Depending on where they are cap-wise next season, I would actually consider over-paying him for another franchise season. In effect Welker will have gotten what he could have/should have accepted as a long-term signing bonus a few years back (@ $20 million guaranteed) - but he's simply running the risk of a career-ending injury every game.

    I think Belichick is planning for life after Welker - but if for some reason there was still a need for him, if we want to keep him he's ours - for a hefty premium - for one more year.
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    I agree with Ivan: There is no next Wes Welker. We'll never see his like again. As TFB said, "There's only one Wes Welker."

    And I loved the line about all black coaches and all white wide receivers. But I'm pretty sure we won't see that either.
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    Either most of this thread didn't watch the video or the thread has gone way off topic :D

    The video made me laugh a fair bit, the Preston Parker bit had me creased up laughing.
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    I felt the same way reading this thread and the Preston Parker piece was hilarious.
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    The 'next' Wes Welker does exist, he just happens to play for another team in the St.Louis Rams.

    Of course he is a free agent this year, but common sense would dictate that Fisher and the Rams will make him very well paid in keeping him for another 4-5 yrs.
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    It'll be very interesting to see how the Rams handle his situation and how the Pats handle WW. In the Pats decide to let WW walk, they in theory will have the money to compete for DAs services.

    I don't think the Rams will fanchise him but you never know...
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    Danny Amendola? His career is one of Welker's season's. To be fair to both Julian Edelman could someday be as good as Danny Amendola, neither will ever be as good as Wes Welker.

    I will never understand how Patriot fans can just keep on running down Welker no matter what he does, it defies explanation, other than that those doing so don't actually watch the games.
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    ???

    I am certainly not "running down" Welker by comparing Amendola to him. If you asked anyone with any knowledge whatsoever in the NFL circles who they'd compare Welker to--it'd be Danny Amendola 10 out of 10 times. It isn't like I suddenly just pulled this thought out of the air.

    Considering the fact that Amendola is quicker, just as tough and gritty, and much younger than Welker there will be many more teams interested in his services as opposed to Welker at age 33, should they both hit free agency.

    Amendola caught 85 passes in only 6 games started in the 2010 season, which speaks volumes to his ability.

    IIRC, Welker wasn't putting up those kinds of numbers before he came here, so it's unfair to compare Amendola's potential to what Welker has done. I'd be very happy retaining Welker, but I'd also be very happy should Amendola hit the market (which will never happen in my opinion).
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    I would think that with Jeff Fisher in tow and many decent pieces of the puzzle falling into place they will do everything they possibly can to keep Amendola.

    That should entail a very nice deal, but a franchise tag could give them until July to reach an agreement at the same time.

    Either way, I don't see any reason whatsoever they'd possibly want to let him go, and I seriously doubt that he ever hits the open market.

    With his injury last year + missing several games this year, he should be able to be signed for something relatively reasonable...ex: in the area of 7 million per, maybe 8 at back end.
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