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    OT: Eli Manning gets 6yr/$97m deal with $35m guaranteed

    Any way to keep this news from Brady? Yikes! If Manning can get $15.3 million a year, what will Brady command? Hopefully (and I expect), Brady will approach his next contract negotiations the same way he did the last - he wants to get good money, but his legacy is more important than milking the Pats for every penny.

    Now I hope next year is an uncapped year so the Pats can afford to pay him without ruining their future cap.

    Source: Eli Manning, New York Giants agree to six-year, $97.5 million contract extension - ESPN
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    re: OT Eli Manning Becomes Highest Paid NFL Player (merged)

    Beginning of the end for the Giants, imo. You cant pay slightly above average players more than anyone else in the league and live to tell about it. The guy still hasnt done squat without a 6'6 All-Pro receiver to lob the ball up to.
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    re: OT Eli Manning Becomes Highest Paid NFL Player (merged)

    he should send $100K to Asante Samuel for dropping the sure INT in the SB and for letting a TD go right through his arms. AS picks off the first - as he should have, we win. If AS had knocked down the TD pass instead of going for the INT and whiffing, we win and...

    Manning still stinks!
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    re: OT Eli Manning Becomes Highest Paid NFL Player (merged)

    Well, it's actually just over $15M per and is really a 7 year deal that will roll in his final rookie year at $9.4M so it beats Big Ben's deal of last year for 8/$102. The important thing is he got $35M guaranteed. That is the part that a new Brady deal will key off of. And that could have been worse since it was anticipated he would get over $40M. Peyton got $34.5M guaranteed in his 2004 deal. Tommy will likely get what at first blush appears to be a little less, but he may end up with more guaranteed money spread throughout the deal. Tommy has low salary at the end of his current deal that can be used to lower the average on essentially the same level of deal.

    It certainly is a lot to pay for a guy who may not kill an otherwise loaded team. But that's the nature of the QB market in the NFL in this era. Patsfans should just be eternally grateful we have a guy who is fully deserving of that level of compensation...

    Giants, Eli striking a long-term deal | ProFootballTalk.com
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    Re: OT: Eli Manning gets 6yr/$97m deal with $35m guaranteed

    $97 million for what? The guy is a mediocre QB, IMHO. :eek:
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    re: OT Eli Manning Becomes Highest Paid NFL Player (merged)

    $107.5 doesn't appear anywhere in that article unless they updated it since you first saw it. Says the same thing Glazer says, $106.9 including this season and $35M guaranteed. And as they stated, everyone expected a deal over $100M and this one was projected as high as $120M and a $20M AAV so this is not bad news for the Pats. Brady will come in a little under on AAV at first blush but will likely get more guaranteed or more in the first 3.
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    re: OT Eli Manning Becomes Highest Paid NFL Player (merged)

    I think your read is pretty accurate. This is probably the bogey that the Pats were waiting for before getting ready to negotiate a deal with Brady before he enters his final contract year. $40 guaranteed with the funny money taking the whole package up to $100 is probably what they will need to get it done with a QB with four SB's, three rings and a career Pass Rating of 92.6 (vs. Eli's one SB, one Ring and 76.1).

    The Krafts aren't sentimental when it comes to spending their money and don't hand out "thanks for the memories" contracts, so they will wait to see that "the real Tom Brady" has returned from his surgery. Once that is known, I see them getting a deal done before this season is over.
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    re: OT Eli Manning Becomes Highest Paid NFL Player (merged)

    $107 was right in the headline and $107.5 was in the body of the text when I first read the piece and when I just checked it now. Maybe you looked at something else or maybe they changed it from $107.5 to $106.9. In either case, sounds like a rounding error to me.
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    Re: OT: Eli Manning gets 6yr/$97m deal with $35m guaranteed

    (See Mo's comment. The threads should be merged.)

    The money is actually $106.9 (initially reported as $107.5), but the important number is the guaranteed $35. It doesn't seem to be in TB's profile to "milk" the Pats "for every penny," but they will have to make him one of the top three or so most highly paid QB's. The consensus out here seems to be that $40 guaranteed is the number and I don't have any reason to dispute that.
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    re: OT Eli Manning Becomes Highest Paid NFL Player (merged)

    Well the Chiefs fans who were *****ing about Cassel's deal should take some comfort in knowing that they got a bargain, given that this mediocrity just broke the bank.

    On the other hand, the person who was pimping the way the Giants are building their team might want to re-think that assertion.
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    Re: OT: Eli Manning gets 6yr/$97m deal with $35m guaranteed

    I guess Huckleberry Hound can buy himself a lifetime supply of Milk Bones now.
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    re: OT Eli Manning Becomes Highest Paid NFL Player (merged)

    They rounded up for the headline. Not to beat a dead horse but the text says:


    I don't think the Krafts are waiting for any proof that Brady is Brady. They are waiting for the timing to be right. This domino had to fall first. Then there is the issue of the CBA.

    People have to realize the NEP are prepared to pay their QB 10-12% of cap. That is were they max slot that position. TODAY that would work out to almost $13M to approaching $15M AAV. The cap (or revenue if there is none) will rise over the next several years - maybe not as much as it did recently, or maybe even more. But it will rise. A $15M AAV for a QB is not a problem...as long as the QB in question is worth it. In Eli's case that is certainly debatable, but the Giants have to believe he is because if not they don't have the franchise QB position locked down... Ditto Pittsburgh.
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    re: OT Eli Manning Becomes Highest Paid NFL Player (merged)

    Mystery solved (and horse beaten beyond death and into the farthest reaches of the netherworld!). The difference between $97.5 and $106.9 (rounded in the initial report to $107) is the $9.4 that Eli is due for 2009. The $107.5 was probably a typo in the original Daily News report (probably added $10 instead of $9.4 to $97.5).
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    Re: OT: Eli Manning gets 6yr/$97m deal with $35m guaranteed

    LOL Entirely understandable...not to mention justifiable.
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    Re: OT: Eli Manning gets 6yr/$97m deal with $35m guaranteed

    I think he is better than mediocre. Average to above average is more like it. He is getting paid for his Super Bowl though. I think with their receiving corp, he could be mediocre this year. They don't have a receiver on their roster who had more than 600 yards last year and Manning's numbers last year were pretty average too.
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    The sad reality in today's NFL is if you find a QB you can win with you hang on for dear life. Because the alternative costs you more than $$$ - FO careers are at stake. Just ask Brian Billick, and all he had to do was play nice with Dilfer... Guys who won't kill you are almost as valuable as the handful who may make you. We're just spoiled here because we all realize as Kraft does (and BB too) that we have the best of the best.
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    Re: OT Eli Manning Becomes Highest Paid NFL Player (merged)

    I think hes going to post bad numbers this year after loosing Plax/Toomer and Ward then again I could be wrong. Point is he's overpaid and by taking up so much cap space the team will be less likely to land free agents and resign players.
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    Besides Eli, the big winners today are the other teams in the NFC East. I really believe that this contract will weaken the Giants competitively given that they will be paying a "Great" QB salary to a guy who, as his stats suggest, is a "Good" QB. Over the next six or seven years, that will come back to bite them both on the field and at the negotiating table.
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    Re: OT Eli Manning Becomes Highest Paid NFL Player (merged)

    How? They would have more money if they paid their QB less, but who the hell would that QB be, and would he require even more support than Eli who has at least shown he can manage a big game and not hurt you with just one big WR...In fact he outperformed Peyton in his one SB and Peyton faced lesser competition with superior weapons at his disposal. Eli is a putz and a bit of an inconsistent enigma, but he ran his ass off that night and limited his mistakes and make the couple of plays he had to in order for his team to win.

    The Giants are opening a new state of the art stadium (and having more success selling their PSL's than their co tenants). They will be fine financially. They will miss Spagnuolo more than anything. He brought a youthful drive to that defense that made it cohesive. Coughlin can be a buzz kill as much as anything. Including Eli screwing up.
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    That's it in a nutshell. Eli has never done anything to suggest he belongs in the "elite QB" department. Last year was easily his best, and it was still worse than than Brady's 2006 spent throwing to scrubs. He's just a slightly-above-average starter, and there's no reason to expect he'll ever be anything more.

    But the Giants had to do hold their noses and do the deal anyway. Because slightly-above-average starters are awfully hard to come by, and a team can't afford to waste a championship-caliber defense by leaving themselves a gaping hole at QB.
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    The other teams in the NFC East feature McNabb who is making 12m a year the next 2 years, Romo who got 30m guarenteed, and Campbell who the Skins were desperate to dump to get Jay Cutler who was making nosie in Denver about his contract and is going to want 30m or Mark Sanchez who has never thrown a pass and got right around 30m guarenteed.

    It seems like paying QBs who aren't great big $ is pretty common in the NFC East which shouldn't surprise anyone. That is just the way it is in the NFL. You are better off paying a solid QB whose strengths and weaknesses have established him as a guy you can build a winning franchise around big $ because if you don't, you have to pay a less accomplished guy who is not a sure thing like a Cutler or Sanchez virtually the same amount.
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    Re: OT Eli Manning Becomes Highest Paid NFL Player (merged)

    McNabb's a much better quarterback than Eli and Campbell's contract is coming up, so your point really doesn't fit.
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    Matt Cassel is getting 11 million and he played 1 year. Eli won a Super Bowl MVP. He deserves it.
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    ...and put up more yards and a better passer rating than Manning ever has for any season of his career.
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    Cassel was throwing to Randy Moss and Wess Welker, they don't count much. Cassel made them better...lol
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    i disagree. I believe that paying "Brady money" to an inferior talent has to hurt the team that is paying it, over time. Yes, Eli played very well in "that game" (and the Giants deserved to win it, tho I would have given the MVP to someone on the other side of the ball), but he was also helped by Asante's not making an admittedly tough pick during the final drive, by a miracle catch and by the Pats calling Cover-Zero, leaving Plaxico, who had been held to 15 yards all day, isolated on an overmatched Hobbs in the Red Zone.

    My argument is simply that the economics of doing this will catch up to the Giants over time. Hey, I'm not planning on going away soon, so I'll be happy to revisit this topic over the next few years, when one of us will be proven right or wrong.
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