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  1. convertedpatsfan

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    Agent: No Peyton Manning-Indianapolis Colts talks until after season - ESPN

    Peyton Manning will not have a new contract before the season ends.

    Manning's agent, Tom Condon, confirmed that he informed Indianapolis Colts president Bill Polian in a face-to-face meeting Wednesday that the 13-year veteran quarterback will not discuss or negotiate a new contract until after the 2010 season. Condon said Polian's reaction was simple: "OK."
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    Condon also said there have been "zero negotiations" between the Colts and Manning.


    Come on Michael Silver, you know you want to write it. And just to quote from that ridiculous article:

    Brady, however, can’t help but notice the way that the only NFL quarterback who can be considered his peer, Peyton Manning, has been treated by the Colts’ ownership.

    Manning, who signed a reported $99.2 million contract extension in 2004 that will void after the 2010 season, looks to be in line for another unprecedented payday: Last February, five days before the Colts’ Super Bowl XLIV defeat to the New Orleans Saints, Indy owner Jimmy Irsay said of a contract extension, “You know it’s going to get done. I think it’s clear, and we’ll start on it this summer. … And it’ll be the biggest [contract] in history; there’s not much doubt about that.”


    Could the Colts trade Manning? Why not? Since Silver loves to make up all sorts of nonsense like this, tell me why he wouldn't write the same thing about Manning.

    Could things really get that ugly? Say no agreement on an extension is reached before the start of the 2010 campaign and Brady, as is likely, tables any contract discussions until the season is complete. Even if he wanted to leave via unrestricted free agency, the Pats would surely franchise him. At that point Brady could threaten to stay away until the 10th week of the season before signing his one-year tender, surrendering only a pro-rated share of his salary and potentially extending the stalemate into another offseason. It’s possible such a nightmarish state of affairs could compel the Pats to consider trading him.

    Yeah, that BS article still bothers me.
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    Picture it . . .

    Teh Colts turn into teh suck this season . . .

    And then Polian tells Manning, "Remember how we talked about making you the highest-paid player in the NFL? We need to talk about that. . . ." :D
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    That would be amazing if he could just go to an NFC team.
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    The Pats should sign him. He'd the best back up QB in the league!
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    IF being the key word. Manning isn't going anywhere.
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    Sports Business News reported recently the Colts had to take a $150 Million dollar loan to "pay off debts" related to franchise operations, etc.

    Im not so sure the Coltsies want to take this Manning contract on until the league reaches labor peace.....
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    Can you imagine Dan Snyder, Jerry Jones and Jeffrey Lurie in a bidding war to see which NFC East team gets him......
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    That's the one thing that gives me pause: the Colts, even after their sweetheart stadium deal, just don't seem to be in good financial shape. I know that they're in a small market, but given the amount of revenue sharing in the league, I just don't get how they could be so far in the red with a new stadium and no real debt service to worry about. I'd love to see their financials...
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    I was thinking about this last week. Where is Silvers hatchet job on the Colts franchise now that the Pats have taken care of their franchise player. This is the kind of thing that makes me feel like there is in fact a media bias out there agaist New England.
    I hate everyone that was responsible for creating the bullsht that was Spygate. Especially that fat peice of dung Tomasse!
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    The Vikings will need a new QB next year! :)
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    you will not see articel saying anything bad about the colts and Manning together unless he starts pulling Farve style stuff and eventhen it's be hard to do the NFL wants the money he makes them
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    It'll be interesting to see what other teams are willing to throw at Manning if/when he hits free agency. Granted, he'll only be a restricted free agent but I think he would still get offers since he could just be that rare player worth 2 #1's. I suppose if it gets to that point, just about anything could happen.

    EDIT: Yes, I'm assuming any new CBA keeps the "franchise player" option in the same format.
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    if you were starting a franchise over, there might be 6-8 players in the league worth 2 #1s and I don't know if Manning is one of them. And I am talking about a Pioli/Belichick re-building a franchise, not a Ditka/Millen.
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    Manning will retire a Colt. All of you can continue to wish and hope otherwise :D
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    I agree with you that there may be only 6-8 players in the league worth 2 #1's, but I don't know why you don't think Manning is one of them. I'd be very interested in who you think those 6-8 guys are who are all better to have on your team than Peyton Manning.

    Besides, nobody will be starting a franchise over. Imagine a team with a lot of the pieces in place but missing a QB. Minnesota, Tennessee and Chicago comes to mind. Think they wouldn't like to make a run at Manning?
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    Why are we talking about this? If the CBA stays the same, he'll be exclusive rights. No one will be able to bid for his services.
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    Yep, there it is.
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    Why would I wish and hope that? Forehead/Colts 9-9 in the play-offs and 1-1 in SB. Brady/Pats 14-4 in the play-offs and 3-1 in SB. Please don't ever let "cut that meat" leave the AFC!
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    Could you imagine Manning and Cowher at Dallas... that would be a pretty handy side.
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    I don't doubt it. But if it was Brady's agent saying talks are being tabled until the end of the year, Michael Silver's head would explode with all the BS he could make up from now until then.
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    The Pats should just trade all their draft picks to the Colts for Manning and have him ride the pine behind Brady.


    Yeah...
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    As much as it would be funny to see him leave, I think I'd rather keep him there. NFL just wouldn't be as fun without pats-colts rivalry. What if he teams up with V-Jax and Mankins in Miami :eek:
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    Would he get an ESPN special too?
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    i'm not 100% positive what this means, but i'm sure where you're from it's pretty good. ;)
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    Manning Will either retire or go where all the wash ups go. He wants to be a jet
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    Assuming the CBA remains the same, Manning cannot be exclusive right-ed due to his time in the league (he's clear of that by about 10 years). They can only franchise him, which would give the Colts 2 1st rounders if some other team stole him away. Also, the Colts would be able to match any offer, but for now the "poison pill" provision remains legal in the NFL so that could theoretically prevent Indy from doing so.
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    I actually agree with this for the most part. The Pats benefit the most by keeping Manning on a team that, without him, is absolutely atrocious. I honestly would fear what would happen if Manning got himself on a truly talented team.
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    Bingo. There is no downside for the Colts to make Manning an exclusive rights franchise player. There is very little to no chance that the tag amount will go up because they use the exclusive rights feature.
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