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  1. pats1

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    Twitter / Albert Breer: ... I know WR coach from o ...

    Which of course begs the question: who did that scout see 10 years ago that was better than Bryant? Ten years ago could either mean anywhere between 1999 and 2001:

    1999 1st round WRs: Torry Holt, David Boston, Troy Edwards

    2000 1st round WRs: Peter Warrick, Plaxico Burress, Travis Taylor, Sylvester Morris, R. Jay Soward

    2001 1st round WRs: David Terrell, Koren Robinson, Rod Gardner, Santana Moss, Freddie Mitchell, Reggie Wayne

    ...It's gotta be R. Jay Soward!

    It's amazing how many of those players had legal, drug, alcohol, and/or suspension problems.

    In case you were wondering...

    2002 1st round WRs: Donte' Stallworth, Ashley Lelie, Javon Walker

    2003 1st round WRs: Charles Rogers, Andre Johnson, Bryant Johnson

    2004 1st round WRs: Larry Fitzgerald, Roy Williams, Reggie Williams, Lee Evans, Michael Clayton, Michael Jenkins, Rashaun Woods

    2005 1st round WRs: Braylon Edwards, Troy Williamson, Mike Williams, Matt Jones, Mark Clayton, Roddy White

    2006 1st round WRs: Santonio Holmes

    2007 1st round WRs: Calvin Johnson, Ted Ginn, Dwayne Bowe, Robert Meachem, Buster Davis, Anthony Gonzalez

    ...Just incredible.
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    There's not way Bryant is better than Calvin Johnson. He'd be destroying this leauge if he had a decent QB.
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    No one is better than Larry Fitzgerald.
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    Of course if it's a Cowboy WR coach, that would explain it. You know opinions though, everyone has one.
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    I don't think it's that incredible.

    Bryant was considered the best of the stud class of Big 12 receivers that year.

    He's not the best of the last 10 years, and the Scout is only going by the tape, not his ability to know an offense, but if you're just going by the tape, only Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald were more dominant in the last 10 years. Maybe Peter Warrick but he was used differently. Not a classic WR.
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    Bryant will be good, but there's no way that he'll end up being better than Calvin Johnson (who finally has a good QB to throw him the ball) or Larry Fitzgerald. Breer, pretty clearly, has his own agenda here. Bryant was his guy and we didn't go with him. Usually I'm able to give guys in the media the benefit of the doubt but not here. He's got an axe to grind.
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    breer is just obsessed with the cowboys and dez bryant.
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    That list is an eye opener.

    Look how many guys are flat out busts or soared like a rocket only to come crashing back to earth?

    WR is a risky pick.
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    Three names....just in the past 5 - 7 years

    Andre Johnson
    Calvin Johnson
    Larry Fitz.
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    Breer should work for an NFL team since he thinks hes a guru at recognizing talent.
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    If I was an NFL GM, I'd want to know if I employed this WR coach. And if I did, I'd fire him on the spot for being a moron.

    I like Bryant a lot. But the best prospect in 10 years??? C'mon...
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    Breer should just go back to Dallas, where he could fellate Dez Bryant for the next 10 years. I've never seen anyone so bitter because the team he covers didn't draft his binky.
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    PROSPECT, he is arguably one of the best WR prospect in the last ten years IMO. At least top 5.
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    The bust rate when I went over this a couple weeks back was 40%.

    There are other positions with high bust rates as well, like RB.
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    This is Breer's 'Borges moment'.

    We still remember who Borges wanted us to draft instead of Seymour. ;)
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    I would have taken Bryant over Andre based on college performance. Both really only had great junior years, but Bryant's junior year was a lot more impressive than Andre's.
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    He's not the top, but he is top 3.
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    My question is why he didn't name the coach. Why does a WR coach need to remain anonymous when evaluating a WR prospect who has already been drafted? Seriously, these comments were off the record? I don't mind having an agenda...but at least be a grown-up about it.

    It is much more likely that this comment is at best an exaggeration. Any WR coach that made that evaluation and actually meant it would bring into question his evaluation skills. Bryant may be the 2nd coming of Jerry Rice, but none of his film against top teams would lead you in that direction.
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    As I said, I really like him, and I really would have liked to have seen us draft him. But the hyperbole surrounding these draft picks has been wearing on me lately. Guess I read/watched too much draft coverage this year. (Okay okay, that's not possible). :p
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    Hopefully Mccourty isn't the next Trevor Matich. Long time Pats fans know what I'm talking about. 1985, Pats had the 15th pick, and traded down, the 49ers traded up for our 15th pick and picked Jerry Rice, we picked Trevor Matich. Matich is a decent color commentator, but was a non descriptive Pro football player, very below average. I do believe Bryant has a chance to be a great WR, and could wind up being a big miss by BB. That being said, I really like the weapons we picked later in the draft. Gronkowski just seems to have IT, he's gonna be a beast, and Hernandez is gonna wind up being a steal. A lot of people don't realize he had the best receiving season ever for a Miami U TE, and holds the record for most receptions in a career for a Miami TE. That's saying a lot considering the TE's that have played there. Price looks to be an outside threat to go along wth Tate from last year. Brady has some good weapons to use this year. Hopefully they stay healthy and we finally use TE's as weapons. But I still drool at the thought of Moss & Bryant, oh well.
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    Hernandez is from UFlorida, which has had a bad reputation for TEs. I think that says a lot about Hernandez because he chose to go to a school that basically ignored its TEs, and he became part of the offense.
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    One reason it's anonymous is because these are unsigned draft picks. I'm pretty sure no one would take too kindly to open evaluations of a player before he was signed. Once he's signed, he's fair game.
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    OMG I'd give anything to have CJ on the Pats. Megatron is easily my fav. WR.
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    Now if only he had a QB to throw to him :D
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    Breer is starting to lose a lot of credibility in my eyes. He obviously has an agenda because 'his guys' didn't get picked by the Pats. It started with his attempt to dirty up Aaron Hernandez' image, and now its continuing with his public fellating of Bryant in order to discredit the McCourty selection. I hope this clown gets fired soon.

    I'm really starting to hate the New England media, why do dirtbags like Borges, Thomase, and Breer still have jobs covering the Pats? All they do is complain, criticize, whine about, and write poor and inaccurate stories about the home team.

    So was Braylon Edwards, so what's your point?
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    Breer is going overboard with his "disapointment" the Pats didn't draft Bryant. Sorry, I didn't want him and it had nothing to do with his off the field stuff. He may an incredibly gifted athlete, but word is for as great his physical skills are, his mental skills aren't there.

    Funny in Breer's puff piece on Bryant today, he blew off his lack of conditioning in this week's minicamp as nothing and implying that all rumors of his problems were nothing more than backlash to him getting himself suspended. In fact the way Breer talked about the guy, you would think he was talking about Tim Tebow (I think Bryant may be a virgin too the way Breer talked about the guy). There was no references to the reports that they had to simplify the playbook for him at Oklahoma State, but Breer went out of his way to mention that when he went to Dallas he did a great job breaking down film with them (according to Cowboys personnel interviewed for the piece). Nor was there any mention of Bryant's relatively low Wonderlic score.

    This is what I hate about journalism. This was a piece solely written to support his belief the Pats blew it by not drafting the guy without actually saying it. It is an "I told you so" piece that has no value than to bolster his own opinion.

    Again, I think Bryant can be a superstar with Dallas, but the Dallas offense is a much simplier offense than the Pats' offense to make up for the fact that Romo doesn't have the greatest football intelligence or filmroom habits. That doesn't mean that Bryant would be any more successful than Joey Galloway, Donald Hayes, Doug Gabriel, or any other WR who failed here less because of their natural talents than their inability to pick up the Pats' complicated offense.
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    Calvin Johnson was the best WR prospect of all time, and it isn't close.

    The combination of size, speed with no off the field issues just wasn't seen before
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    Hyperbole at its finest. 10 years is such an arbitrary number.
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