Welcome to PatsFans.com

OT - ATTN: We Need Your Help - PLEASE READ

Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Ian, Jan 18, 2012.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Ian

    Ian Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2000
    Messages:
    5,257
    Likes Received:
    184
    Ratings:
    +255 / 2 / -1

    #17 Jersey

    I don't know if anyone here has accessed Wikipedia this morning, but there's a proposal I've been following for a while now that I think everyone in here needs to know about because it could potentially have a bearing here at our site, and thousands of others.

    The act is called SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) which, if made law, would expand the ability of U.S. law enforcement and copyright holders to fight online trafficking in copyrighted intellectual property. I have no issue with the concept of what they're trying to achieve, but the problem is that the language in the proposed law is too broad and it could have a direct impact on sites like this which contains a lot of "user generated material" (ie: posts, threads, etc.)

    As you know I've been active against having people copy/paste complete articles, etc. to make sure we stay within the necessary guidelines so that we're not infringing on any copyrights. I think for the most part we do a good job, but obviously it's not perfect and it's obviously hard to catch everything.

    The problem is several of the provisions in SOPA will force ISPs hosting websites (ie: the company that hosts our servers) to potentially disconnect us from the Internet if there’s a claim - unsubstantiated or not - that we're infringing against copyright, regardless of if it has not been fully proved in court. The argument is that this would make it easy for someone to make false or weak claims against the site to take a us offline until we went to court.

    That's a headache I'm not prepared to deal with. The number of threats I get each year via e-mail from angry members from other teams we remove are pretty unreal and obviously you guys don't see them, so giving any additional ammunition backed up by a law like this would be a potentially huge issue. I've been talking with other sites and it's a very real concern that we're all potentially going to be faced with if this goes through, unless it's rewritten to better target the sites that are really the ones they're looking to address.

    Needless to say this is something serious enough that everyone should be aware of. I noticed Wikipedia went black this morning over it, and I just felt that everyone here should know about what's going on. Again, I'm not condoning piracy, infringement, etc. - that's not the point. The point is the language in the proposal unfortunately is too broad and isn't specific enough in achieving the desired results.

    You can read more about it here:

    Stop Online Piracy Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2012
  2. xmarkd400x

    xmarkd400x 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2007
    Messages:
    1,746
    Likes Received:
    6
    Ratings:
    +6 / 0 / -0

    If you lock it we can't bump it. Perhaps this deserves a sticky.

    Edit: And perhaps a separate discussion thread(?)

    Edit2: I figure I'll use my real estate to provide some links for those that are interested:

    Anti-SOPA
    Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Learn_more
    Google: https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/

    Pro-SOPA
    CNN: http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/17/technology/sopa_explained/index.htm?iid=HP_Highlight
    MPAA: http://consumerist.com/2012/01/mpaa...tunt-to-turn-us-all-into-corporate-pawns.html

    Neutral(?)/News
    BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16612628

    Nerd News (Not Neutral)
    Ars Technica: http://arstechnica.com/
    Slashdot: http://slashdot.org/
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2012
  3. Ian

    Ian Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2000
    Messages:
    5,257
    Likes Received:
    184
    Ratings:
    +255 / 2 / -1

    #17 Jersey

    I'll leave it open for a bit as long as it avoids any political debate, but it's definitely something people need to be aware of.
     
  4. Skree

    Skree Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2007
    Messages:
    891
    Likes Received:
    3
    Ratings:
    +9 / 0 / -0

    #12 Jersey

    I think SOPA got knocked out by the House of Representatives. There's a Senate version called PIPA that is on the docket now. Hopefully, it won't go through. Write your congressional rep and sign the google.com petition,
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2012
  5. Fencer

    Fencer Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2006
    Messages:
    7,871
    Likes Received:
    46
    Ratings:
    +132 / 2 / -15

    #12 Jersey

    Ian,

    A great anti-SOPA argument, and not one I've seen made before.

    Unfortunately, you got your phrasing a little garbled in the part quoted above.

    (Yes, I've stopped posting here due to moderator nonsense. But that's about football. SOPA is about human liberties. That's a lot more important.)
     
  6. Ian

    Ian Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2000
    Messages:
    5,257
    Likes Received:
    184
    Ratings:
    +255 / 2 / -1

    #17 Jersey

    From what I've read it's still in play, so it's not completely done yet.

    For those that want to, you can go here to look up your local representative:

    Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  7. NEP4Life

    NEP4Life Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2011
    Messages:
    760
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    The Senate is voting on cloture for SOPA on January 24th.

    You can use the following site to contact your Senators/Representatives and urge them to vote no: http://americancensorship.org/ .

    More info and more ways to contact your Congresspersons here: https://blacklist.eff.org/
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2012
  8. NEPats1

    NEPats1 Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2010
    Messages:
    694
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    Hey guys I don't know much about this stuff, can someone explain in basic language what will happen to the average internet user?
     
  9. ALP

    ALP Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2007
    Messages:
    7,498
    Likes Received:
    18
    Ratings:
    +48 / 2 / -0

    i didnt realize this was that serious...where's the petition?
     
  10. xmarkd400x

    xmarkd400x 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2007
    Messages:
    1,746
    Likes Received:
    6
    Ratings:
    +6 / 0 / -0

  11. PatsFan2

    PatsFan2 In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2005
    Messages:
    2,661
    Likes Received:
    27
    Ratings:
    +53 / 4 / -5

    #87 Jersey

    I can't even get on craigslist now because of that.:mad:
     
  12. NEPats1

    NEPats1 Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2010
    Messages:
    694
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

  13. Ron Sellers

    Ron Sellers 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2010
    Messages:
    1,899
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    Day-em.

    Guilty until proven innocent?

    Not good.
     
  14. robbomango

    robbomango In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2011
    Messages:
    2,915
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    #12 Jersey

    My representative's usually send me back long drawn out non answers on issues but I don't mind harassing them.
     
  15. PatsWickedPissah

    PatsWickedPissah PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2005
    Messages:
    23,679
    Likes Received:
    642
    Ratings:
    +1,716 / 19 / -12

    Disable Jersey

    Just for info purposes, MA Senator Brown has said he will not support PIPA. I do not know Senator Kerry's position. I suggest MA voters here contact him. I have contacted one of my NH Senators to register disapproval of her support. I believe that Senators can be persuaded to vote against this. Do your civic duty.
     
  16. Rusty Coupe

    Rusty Coupe On the Game Day Roster

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2008
    Messages:
    490
    Likes Received:
    6
    Ratings:
    +20 / 0 / -0

    #37 Jersey

    There is a video in this link that explains in real terms what PROTECT/IP SOPA will mean to the average user.
    http://www.emptywheel.net/2012/01/18/save-the-internet/
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2012
  17. A.C Vegas

    A.C Vegas In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2006
    Messages:
    2,160
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    #11 Jersey

    between this an the NDAA the goverment is really trying to get to the little guys like us we need more people to speak out aganst it
     
  18. PatsFan2

    PatsFan2 In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2005
    Messages:
    2,661
    Likes Received:
    27
    Ratings:
    +53 / 4 / -5

    #87 Jersey

    And look at some of the Deep Pocket companies behind them *Hated* in Bold.

    News Corp, RIAA, MPAA, Nike, Sony, Comcast, VISA & others want to make that world your reality.
     
  19. Fencer

    Fencer Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2006
    Messages:
    7,871
    Likes Received:
    46
    Ratings:
    +132 / 2 / -15

    #12 Jersey

    Sites will get taken down.

    Site owners will at a certain point not even bother creating or managing certain kinds of sites.

    Those sites that do stay up will censor their users heavily to avoid being taken entirely down.
     
  20. TheGodInAGreyHoodie

    TheGodInAGreyHoodie Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2007
    Messages:
    6,631
    Likes Received:
    25
    Ratings:
    +26 / 0 / -0

    That doesn't matter. Some low level assistant counts the number of emails they get and bigger the number the more likely the rep is to care. Their actual response is meaningless.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

unset ($sidebar_block_show); ?>