OT- Anyone else hate Nascar

[CTPatsFan]

Here's the child of a typical NASCAR family enjoying the race.

Looks like my son at a Pats game

He gets way too emotionally involved. He lives and dies by every play. Like father, like son!

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

Listen to yourselves, y'all showing your the nothern arrogance, prejudice, and ingnorance that lead to Kerry's outstanding showing South of the Mason-Dixon line. Whenever the South is mentioned on this board, "red-neck", "Inbred", "ignorant", KKK et al comes out of your collective mouths. I was born and raised in Mass; lived in NYC for 13 years, and have been down in Savannah, GA for four years now. I would never go back! First off whenever anyone from Boston comes to visit, they can not handle a 50% black population down here. Their predjudice shows immeadiatly. If you think that any other section of the country is more predjudice against blacks than Massachusets, you are insane. How many towns in Mass have a 50% black population? Pushing them all into one or two sections, or "on the other side of the tracks" does not make you more tolerant. Savannah went through forced busing and there were not roits or "white flight" from the city, can you say the same? How many of you that wrote "inbred", "redneck", etal grew up in and still live in the 95% white suburbs of Boston? Its very easy to take the "high road" in race relations when you only have to deal with the one "black family" per town. I'm quite sure that race relations are top priority in Duxbury & Cohasset. If you think that NASCAR is not a huge part of the American sports scene, check out the earinings of Dale Jr., Gordon,and Stewart last year. Anyone who thinks they can just get into a car and drive around a 2 and a half mile track with 35 degree banking with 45 other cars doing 180-200 mphs, probably think they can hit a Clemen's fastball over the monster.

 

[mikey]

Listen to yourselves, y'all showing your the nothern arrogance, prejudice, and ingnorance that lead to Kerry's outstanding showing South of the Mason-Dixon line. Whenever the South is mentioned on this board, "red-neck", "Inbred", "ignorant", KKK et al comes out of your collective mouths. I was born and raised in Mass; lived in NYC for 13 years, and have been down in Savannah, GA for four years now. I would never go back! First off whenever anyone from Boston comes to visit, they can not handle a 50% black population down here. Their predjudice shows immeadiatly. If you think that any other section of the country is more predjudice against blacks than Massachusets, you are insane. How many towns in Mass have a 50% black population? Pushing them all into one or two sections, or "on the other side of the tracks" does not make you more tolerant. Savannah went through forced busing and there were not roits or "white flight" from the city, can you say the same? How many of you that wrote "inbred", "redneck", etal grew up in and still live in the 95% white suburbs of Boston? Its very easy to take the "high road" in race relations when you only have to deal with the one "black family" per town. I'm quite sure that race relations are top priority in Duxbury & Cohasset. If you think that NASCAR is not a huge part of the American sports scene, check out the earinings of Dale Jr., Gordon,and Stewart last year. Anyone who thinks they can just get into a car and drive around a 2 and a half mile track with 35 degree banking with 45 other cars doing 180-200 mphs, probably think they can hit a Clemen's fastball over the monster.

FTW,

I thought you are POLITICIZING this thread with your reference to "KERRY", "REDNECK", "INBRED", "KKK", "MASON-DIXIE", and "SOUTH".

You might want to post your response on the Political forum instead.

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[T-ShirtDynasty]

First off whenever anyone from Boston comes to visit, they can not handle a 50% black population down here.

WTF does this have to do with the discussion at hand? We're talking about race as in a contest, not race as in ethnicity.

To the actual subject at hand I enjoy many types of auto racing, NASCAR is not one of them. Snoresville to me, but to each their own. I'd watch Curling any day of the week before NASCAR (and actually enjoy it).

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

WTF does this have to do with the discussion at hand? We're talking about race as in a contest, not race as in ethnicity.

To the actual subject at hand I enjoy many types of auto racing, NASCAR is not one of them. Snoresville to me, but to each their own. I'd watch Curling any day of the week before NASCAR (and actually enjoy it).

It is a responce to the postings, of confedrate flags, inbreds, et al. If you don't like NASCAR, fine, I can take it or leave it myself, but I feel that I have to respond to the insults beinf hurled at the South.

BTW the US is up 7-6 in the 10th end of the Bronze medal match AND WE HAVE THE HAMMER!

 

[PATSNUTme]

FTW,

I thought you are POLITICIZING this thread with your reference to "KERRY", "REDNECK", "INBRED", "KKK", "MASON-DIXIE", and "SOUTH".

You might want to post your response on the Political forum instead.

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I agree that the Kerry reference should have not been used on the football board where it would be very, very nice to keep it clean from politics of any type. Save that stuff for the Political Forum.

The "inbred" and "redneck' were mentioned in other post and those are not political. "KKK", "Mason- Dixon", and "South" are not political. Although some people may be offended by the mere mention of the KKK.

But, it is very unfortunate that race had to be brought into it.

I know that point that FTW was trying to make . Too bad he couldn't have made it another way.

 

[Willie55]

Listen to yourselves, y'all showing your the nothern arrogance, prejudice, and ingnorance that lead to Kerry's outstanding showing South of the Mason-Dixon line. Whenever the South is mentioned on this board, "red-neck", "Inbred", "ignorant", KKK et al comes out of your collective mouths. I was born and raised in Mass; lived in NYC for 13 years, and have been down in Savannah, GA for four years now. I would never go back! First off whenever anyone from Boston comes to visit, they can not handle a 50% black population down here. Their predjudice shows immeadiatly. If you think that any other section of the country is more predjudice against blacks than Massachusets, you are insane. How many towns in Mass have a 50% black population? Pushing them all into one or two sections, or "on the other side of the tracks" does not make you more tolerant. Savannah went through forced busing and there were not roits or "white flight" from the city, can you say the same? How many of you that wrote "inbred", "redneck", etal grew up in and still live in the 95% white suburbs of Boston? Its very easy to take the "high road" in race relations when you only have to deal with the one "black family" per town. I'm quite sure that race relations are top priority in Duxbury & Cohasset. If you think that NASCAR is not a huge part of the American sports scene, check out the earinings of Dale Jr., Gordon,and Stewart last year. Anyone who thinks they can just get into a car and drive around a 2 and a half mile track with 35 degree banking with 45 other cars doing 180-200 mphs, probably think they can hit a Clemen's fastball over the monster.

You've been there a whole four years! Wow, I guess that makes you an expert on the south and all the harmony there.

 

[JoeSixPat]

I think that maybe I don't like it because I don't understand it

Near as I can tell this "sport" involves three or more hours of the following:

Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left

Surely with so many fans, I must be the one who is missing something about this "sport".

 

[CTPatsFan]

I think that maybe I don't like it because I don't understand it

Near as I can tell this "sport" involves three or more hours of the following:

Drive fast, Turn Left...

Surely with so many fans, I must be the one who is missing something about this "sport".

Watkins Glen is a road course where they actually have to make -GASP- right turns. It isn't one of the more popular venues, though. The problem is that so much of the action takes place out of sight. With the Drive fast, Turn Left format you can see everything happen in front of you. I think that's why it's evolved to that format.

I'm not sure what that says about Americans in general when it comes to autoracing. Grand Prix/road course racing is huge in the rest of the racing world but just doesn't have anywhere near the popularity here.

 

[Tunescribe]

You've been there a whole four years! Wow, I guess that makes you an expert on the south and all the harmony there.

No, that's "hominy," as in "grits." He has it every morning for breakfast. All I can say about NASCAR is since its main events are always on Sunday, why would any genuine American male prefer watching machines go 'round in circles over football?

 

[Willie55]

No, that's "hominy," as in "grits." He has it every morning for breakfast. All I can say about NASCAR is since its main events are always on Sunday, why would any genuine American male prefer watching machines go 'round in circles over football?

When I was in the military I was stationed in Florida for 3 1/2 years and tried those once. They are disgusting. It was like I brought oatmeal to the beach, dropped it in the sand, and then started eating them.

 

[Alk]

I think that maybe I don't like it because I don't understand it

Near as I can tell this "sport" involves three or more hours of the following:

Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left
Drive fast, Turn Left

Surely with so many fans, I must be the one who is missing something about this "sport".

If you have fooled yourself into believing that that is all that is involved in a NASCAR race then I can definately understand why you don't care for it.

 

[JoeSixPat]

If you have fooled yourself into believing that that is all that is involved in a NASCAR race then I can definately understand why you don't care for it.

Seriously - enlighten me. I really don't get it. That's exactly the way it looks to me.... throw in a crash for excitement here or there and that's about it.

Its a great advertising venue though. Do we have a Massengil team yet, or is that sometime down the road, so to speak?

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

Seriously - enlighten me. I really don't get it. That's exactly the way it looks to me.... throw in a crash for excitement here or there and that's about it.

Its a great advertising venue though. Do we have a Massengil team yet, or is that sometime down the road, so to speak?

Interestingly thier is a "Viagra" car, with an older driver, Mark Martin. Why or how I know off the top of my head who the driver of the Viagra car is, may become something I need to become concerned about.

Also, I've seen some "pit crews" in the Bronx that would rival the ones in Daytona.

All jokes aside, the ability to shape and tune you car, within the NASCAR rules is a big part of the "game". Along with pit crews, drafting, and race stragety. But the thought that "anybody can drive" is ludarcous. First off the driver's are encassed in fireproof suits in unairconditioned care racing throught the south during the summer. Not fun, NASCAR even has it's own "gatorade true story" commerical. Secondly knowing how and when to pass/draft et al. The idea behind NASCAR is that the car are esstenitally supposed to be even, meaning nobody has a mechanical advantage (this of course, is only true in theory), the big money teams always seem to have the top cars. So the sport is to test the skill of the driver.

 

[DaBruinz]

http://www.census.gov/prod/2005pubs/06statab/arts.pdf

I find it hard to believe your assertion that NASCAR "blows away" every other spectator sports.

According to U.S. government statistics, it is not even the most popular spectator sport in America.

Considering the high expenses involved in staging the event, I doubt if NASCAR exists in other countries. (at least, I don't recall seeing any NASCAR in Indonesia or Kuwait.)

My impression is that NASCAR is an indigenous regional product, much like country music, pork rind and WalMart.


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Hey Mikey -
Do you actually check the links you provide? That's a census report from 1939 and is hardly applicable today.

Now as for what my assertion is, believe whatever you want. I just know that there are more than just "in-breds" as someone else put it, that go and watch this.

 

[DaBruinz]

What exactly are you basing that on? What's the criteria?

Television ratings, ad and merchandising revenue would say otherwise. An estimated billion people watch the Super Bowl world wide every year. You really think a billion people watch the Daytona 500? Not even close. NASCAR doesn't even beat out the NFL playoffs and Super Bowl in this country in terms of viewers.

And I'll wager soccer AKA futbol (much as I don't enjoy it) is a lot more popular than NASCAR in highly populated countries like China, India and Japan, not to mention all of Europe and South America.

If you're talking spectators in the stands, I don't even see how that argument works. I count 39 races on the Nextel Cup slate this year. You figure an average attendance of 175,000 fans, that's 6.82 million people per year who watch NASCAR races in person which is impressive.

But also consider that the University of Tenneesee, Michigan and Penn St. alone average about 100,000 fans over 5-6 home games each year. At those three schools a combined 1.85 million fans watch games in person each year. And that doesn't even count other schools like Notre Dame, Nebraska, Florida, Oklahoma, Florida St., Alabama, LSU etc. who have huge 80,000 to 90,000 stadiums and sell out every home game, let alone the rest of the usual players in the AP Top 25. More people from just 12 schools go to see college football in person than NASCAR races.

I respect NASCAR and the drivers have more stones than anyone else in sports, but to say it's the most popular spectator sport in the world is more bluster than fact.

No offense, but your numbers are WAY off. Try about 300K - 400K per race. And that doesn't include the fans that go there for the NASCAR truck series races and such.

 

[LloydBraun]

nascar

Sports Weekly now has a Nascar section...... serenity now!!!!!!

I despise that junk.

 

[ch3oh]

I believe the reference: "largest spectator sport" refers to NASCAR sanctioned stock car racing in general. The are a lot of tracks across the country that draw paying spectators each and every weekend.

I am involved in auto racing ( not stock cars) and to be honest, I don't watch any of it on television. It does not translate well to TV and I know it is not for everyone.


Can you spot the PAtriots and Red Sox stickers?
http://oomur.pair.com/mytattoo/ESPNPomonaRaceHighlights_02.wmv

 

[ch3oh]

#1 spectator sport by attendance.
#2 televised sport behind NFL.

"When Bill France Sr. organized NASCAR 55 years ago, he envisioned stock car racing as a nationally embraced. But even he couldn't have foreseen where it is headed in 2003. It has grown into the No. 2 televised sport behind the NFL, funded by more Fortune 500 companies than any other sport, driven by strong fan loyalty (customers who are three times as likely to purchase NASCAR's sponsor's products and services)."

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/0703/17nasdiv.html
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"There was good news for NBC regarding Daytona 500 ratings.

Sunday's race drew an 11.3 rating, a 23 share and a viewing audience of 37 million, according to fast national data from Nielsen Media Research."
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Beginning as regional entertainment in the Southeastern U.S., NASCAR has grown to become the second most popular professional sport in terms of television ratings inside the U.S., ranking behind only the National Football League.
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INBRED JETS AND GIANTS FANS:

But Michael Printup points to the Nielsen TV ratings for the this year's Daytona 500, which was watched by 402,000 households in Brooklyn, 306,000 households in Queens, and 319,000 households in Manhattan.

"With those three boroughs alone, you're over 1 million households, with 2.3 people per household," Printup said. "The tri-state (New York-New Jersey-Connecticut) area is like 3.7 million fans. That's a big number."


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[Maine-Fan]

I always say I could get a lawn chair and a cooler full of beer and sit on the side of Route 495 and see the same thing as a NASCAR race. The only difference is is on 495 there's more road rage and a third of the drivers are drunk.

I'm laughing my A## off.