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  1. carolinatony

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    from his own 29.

    Interesting..Is everyone trying to be like us now? They did make it fyi.
    Wonder if he ever this before?
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    Re: Another BB- Andy Reid: Goes for 4th and 1 in the 1ST

    ialways felt that reid and payton are two other coaches who would pull something like BB. thats why i like andy reid despite some of his clock mgmt issues/
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    Re: Another BB- Andy Reid: Goes for 4th and 1 in the 1ST

    And it almost costed the Eagles - on the Niners subsequent series, they fumbled it away, so Reid ended up dodging a bullet.

    I agree - Reid is not afraid to take gambles - this isn't the first time I've seen him do this.
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    Re: Another BB- Andy Reid: Goes for 4th and 1 in the 1ST

    wisenhunt and maybe shanahan(if he ever gets back) love 4th downs
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    ya, know everyone forgets that the Pats THEMSELVES went for it on a 4th and 1 situation from their own 30 yard line in the third quarter of an Atlanta game. I can't remember the score, but the Pats were up by a TD at most. Since the Pats made the conversion AND the game wasn't on national TV, this decision received no criticism/second guessing.
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    Has there ever been a time that other teams didnt copy BB?
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    Well - when you win 3 Super Bowls, EVERYONE's going to want to copy your schemes.
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    the nfl is a copycat league, even the pats gave the wild cat a shot for a few games
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    Just to add yet another example: earlier this year, Patriots succeeded in their one yard attempt in the 4th quarter from the 30 yard line against the Colts.

    The difference is that it was a 4th and 2, unfortunately. Another is that asking a Hall of Fame-bound quarterback to gain at least two yards to win, and if not, give your defense a chance to preserve a win as the seconds are counting down, is different than going for it on a 4th and 1, in the 1st quarter, with a non-awesome quarterback.

    The logic for going for it on 4th and 1, when Andy and Belichick do it, is that teams don't go for it enough.

    The logic for what happened in Indy was that Brady and the defense would get five-plus attempts to run out the clock either on offense or defense, versus handing the ball to Manning at the 70 yard line, when he can easily throw the ball to a receiver, gaining yardage from a pass interference call the way the Colts do at least once or twice every time we play them (I'm not blaming the refs for falling for it; the credit is for the Colts who are good at advancing the ball to the Patriots 30 themselves whether their receivers catch it or not.) Statistically, either option was about even, and the Patriots did have the lead... so why give the ball to Manning?

    While the plays seem similar, the reasons for why these plays were called, as well as their results, are completely different.

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    I can't recall if Reid has gone for it on 4th and short that deep in his own territory, but he's definitely made some aggressive play calls over the years, especially with onside kicks. He even called one (which was recovered) in his first game as Eagles coach. I'm sure the Philly fans didn't question that one :p
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    Hate to break it to you, but Belichick didn't invent going for it on 4th and 1, even deep in your own territory. Reid has always been an aggressive coach.
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    The Steelers just did an onside kick, up by 2, with 3 minutes left. That is a way bigger risk than what BB did IMO
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    Who would have thought. Bill Belichick a pioneer copycat-ed by the rest of the league :p.
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    It's not an invention, just coaches showing off ball size. Tomlin tried to get into the mix and then got Rochambeau'd today
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    SNF guys just talked about for 1 min because the steelers won and they even acknowledged it
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    umm, no they didnt

    it failed....they just got a turnover right after....
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    What's the worst that could happen?......

    Oh...never mind.:(
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