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  1. PonyExpress

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    My sleeper teams at this early stage are St Louis and Washington.

    The St. Louis offense is formidable, with Orlando Pace returning healthy, the maturation of A. Barron, the addition of McMichael, D. Bennett and Brian Leonard to spell S. Jackson. The LB corps is an underrated group. Witherspoon is a borderline probowl talent, Tinoisamoa was on the verge of stardom before an injury plagued year, Chillar is a solid, durable vet. The secondary has the emerging Tye Hill and the very underrated S Atogwe, who quietly made as many impact plays as any safety in the NFL last season. Corey Chavous is a steady, heady player. The problem is the D-Line. L.Little is still a fearsome pass rusher. Carriker, L. Glover and C. Wroten will play DT. The defense has the makings of an above average squad if Haslett can get his head out of his @$$. An above average D is enough to propel the Rams into the playoffs IMO.

    The Redskins hopes depend on the progression of J. Campbell. I have been a big fan of Campbell since his senior year at Auburn. He has great pocket presence, poise, leadership ability, a plus arm. After another off-season absorbing Al Saunders' scheme, IMO this offense could flourish, similar to the way the KC offense exploded in Vermeil's 2nd year, going from the #16 scoring offense to #1. I doubt the Skins will explode like that, but an uptick is likely. One indication of that could be the team scoring 59 points combined in its last 2 games. The receiving corps is talented, the TE Cooley is capable, and the two headed rb tandem is top notch. As for the D... I have never been a fan of Greg Williams' since his Buffalo days. Last year's record setting ineptitude by the Skins' D proved skeptics correct. Still, I expect Williams to at least coach this D back to respectability with the additions of L. Fletcher, L. Landry, F. Smoot, the return of C. Griffin, and the return to form of S. Taylor. I like the Redskins to surprise and finish 10-6 in the playoff picture.
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    The biggest variable for the Redskins is Jason Campbell like you said. The second biggest is their defensive line. They were terrible. They couldn't get any pressure and were useless against the run. I think Gaines Adams would have been a great pick if he fell that far.
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    I'm a Rams fan, and God forbid, I will say the 9ers are the surprise pick for me. They improved that D alot. picking up Banta-Cain, Clements, and Franklin. They had a strong draft as well as well.
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    That is an unwelcome view on this board sir.

    I agree with Pony's first pick, the Rams are looking very good this year. Essentially they look like the Denver Broncos, except they draft their sucky D-linemen instead of signing them in free agency. However, they have a better quarterback and they play in the weaker conference.
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    In the AFC I think the sleeper is ...

    HOUSTON (Yes Carr was the cancer there-Schaub turns 'em around,almost Brady-like)

    The NFC may have several,SF is the trendy pick by many so even though I agree I will pass on them and pick...

    WASHINGTON (Joe Gibbs still is a good coach who only needs his players to overacheive a bit and they will be tough in the east)

    ARIZONA (Yes,By the end of the year Leinart will have passed for over 3,700 yards and will be the best QB out of the 2006 draft and Whisenhunt may end up as coach of the year in his first as HC - expect a division title within reach,SB maybe in a few years)
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    Who died and made you boss? or who said we don't welcome any opinion that may not be in the best interest of the Patriots but is yet not disrespectful in general?

    If this board were for Patriots fans only we would have gotten rid of many NFL fans of other teams a long time ago,We welcome other fans who are not trolls and are respectful,His opinion was not disrespectful.
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    Huh??

    Please, tell me how a guy who gets sacked 76 times in a season and never once complains about the worst line in football is a cancer?

    And how did Houston improve their line? Schaub is going to be fed to the wolves just like Carr.
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    Chill I don't think that was meant to be an attack I think the poster was simply saying that the 49ers being a sleeper team was something we would be happy to heear because it would directly work against the Patriots.
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    You got him all wrong, man. Remember? We have the SF's 1st rounder. This is debate everywhere about where the hell the 49ers actually stand as a franchise. Things are looking up for sure, but will it be delayed for at least one more year so that we get at least a top 13 pick rather than a 20+?

    Basically: "We" want the Niners to be bad. To admit they just might not be anymore is to be kept as hush-hush as an usher letting us in for a fin through the back. It was a joke. A light-hearted one, too.

    I advise you to take up jump-roping. More reward-per-damage than jogging.
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    PS: u: Again, I think your comedy is top notch. You never fail to make me laugh while simultaneously remind me of snit I forgot.
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    I am going with the Denver Broncos. Everyone had coroneted the Chargers as the automatic winners of the AFC West. Yet, it has been awhile since a team has won the AFC West back to back in years.
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    Man, I have a hard time considering the Broncos as a sleeper. I consider them more as a contender, even more so than they have been.

    Of course, the undertone of dissention and the trend towards late-season failure does preclude that assumption.

    Denver is a perennial threat that plays particularly well against the Pats.
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    I apologize for the miscommunication. As zippo and zarakotas successfully sussed, I was not posting confrontationally. I already went through the ups and downs following the Seahawks tlast year. Or, to put it into pictographs...

    I meant it like this: :D

    Not this: :mad:
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    Thank you for your prognostication on my pick swami - and while you are at it,who is going to be our president in 2091? - you seem to see ahead so well to criticize other picks :rolleyes:
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    Thats cool,thanks for explaining- Just did not understand the tone regarding your comment to the other poster.
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    I guess you also predicted New Orleans was going to be in the NFC Championship game last year too,right?

    Give me a freakin break,you know about as much as I do to who the surprise team will be this year.
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    #24 Jersey

    Arizona. I think Leinart is going to come out firing next year and that offense has many, many weapons at his disposal. The only question mark will be the defense.

    That, and I think San Francisco is going to be pretty god damn good next year (keep in mind that they play in the NFC).
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    Every year I keep thinking the Cards will rise up and be respectable...hasn'r happened yet..I DO think it is possible and probable...BUT not this year. I also felt that way early about Houston..the first years in the league...but then...they went the other way...rebuilding again...(Sort of funny when the team has never be really BUILT). Maybe the Rams...but the really bad teams..Det, Cleve, Oak will take years...NOT immediately go in the other direction (like the Jets). San Fran could be in that category..for a jump up to 10 games..but on the other hand...progress up might take a few years and they might level off...(like the Jets..who I think could have a hard time getting to where they did last year.)
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    ARZ Cardinals and, i hope to be wrong of course, SF 49ers in the Nfc

    in the AFC i agree with DEN choice (but they are, i agree, usual contenders)

    what about BUF ?
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    I don't think they're in danger of winning the division, but I think the Raiders could be pretty good. Their defense borders on excellent, and has for the last two years. Their QB and WR, and coaching situations have been upgraded, and Lamont Jordan is healthy again. As always, it will come down to OL.

    As far as playoff teams, Kitna, Roy Williams, Calvin Johnson, and Mike Furrey running a Mike Martz offense could be fantastic, especially if Kevin Jones comes back healthy. Figure in the Packers and Vikings twice on the schedule, and they could make the playoffs.

    And yes, those are the teams that drafted 1 and 2 last year. Which means I don't know nothing.

    I would go with Cleveland, Buffalo, or Tampa Bay to have the #1 pick next year.
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    I actually see the Bills as a team on the rise in a couple years. Marv Levy nets them 4-5 good starters every draft.
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    I was going to post Detroit as well. The have a ton of weapons and in year two of Martz' system, they should be able to do some damage in that division. I'd expect at least 3-3 with two losses likely coming to the Bears.

    They do have to play the AFC West but they should beat Oakland and should put up enough points to beat KC. That makes them 5-5

    If they then split their four games with the NFC East that makes them 7-7. Their make or break games then would be the two games @ Arizona and vs TB. Win those two and they are 9-7 and that may be good enough for a wild card in the JV conference.


    In the AFC I like the Steelers to rebound a bit from last year. Their division is tough, 500 would be an accomplishment there. They get the NFC West and AFC East head to head this year, 6-2 is not out of the question, though 5-3 is more likely. I see them definitely losing to the Pats in NE and at Denver but they get Seattle and Jacksonville at home. They are always tough at home. This team could quietly win 10 games and get in as the last wild card.
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    The Skins do look good for 2007, if for no other reason than the Giants (without Tiki) and the Cowboys (without Tuna) are headed for a slide. Coming down the stretch of their schedule, their destiny is in their hands with a December schedule that closes with Chicago, Giants, Minnesota and Dallas. One way or another, they should decide the NFC playoff picture.
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    #24 Jersey

    No John Kitna led team is making the playoffs.
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    I agree with you that they are a playoff nightmare for us. But I classify them as a sleeper because they did not make the play offs last year and I have not seen any so called expert that gives them a shot to win their division.
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    Last year Detroit was a terrible team. They were awful at everything, except passing the football. So what do they go out and do? Draft Calvin Johnson with the second overall pick. Their defense, offensive line, and running game were all terrible, and they had two receivers who went over 1,000 yards, yet they pick another receiver.

    To compound the problem they picked Drew Stanton in the second round, which in itself isn't a bad pick except that he won't help them for a while and they are in desperate need in the areas previously mentioned, and Stanton doesn't help them there.

    They added Tatum Bell who is decent but that was in Denver so who knows how good he actually is. I also heard that the injuries of Kevin Jones were bad and that he might not ever be the same player again.

    In conclusion, Detroit's skill players on offense look scary, but the res of the team is so terrible that it won't really matter.
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    Why is that? It's not like it hasn't happened before.
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    #24 Jersey

    Yeah, in the late 90's. Calvin Johnson, Roy Williams, and Mike Furrey just may be the best receiving corps in the league, but John Kitna belongs in NFL Europa.
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    I could tell you my opionion of who the sleeper in the AFC will be, but I think you can all figure it out for yourselves. As for the Rams, I don't consider them sleepers at all, I think they'll win the NFC. Their offense is dynamic and IMO unstopable.

    So my NFC sleeper pick; let's go with Panthers.
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    As good as the Rams offense was, their defense was twice as bad. Worst in the league last year. Hard to see them making such a big turnaround. Granted they could win their lame division and make the playoffs, but they'll be an easy out.

    Another team that has gotten lost in the New England\San Diego\Indy hype is Jacksonville. They could conceivably contend for a Championship.
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