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  1. PatriotsReign

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    This thread for all those who'd like to discuss this topic.

    It doesn't belong in the "Is America becoming more Secular" thread.

    Thank you!
     
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    Why dimmie, Why do you do dis to me/us?

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    Great line from a great movie....

    But off-topic!:D
     
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    Nice post IC!
     
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    There we go....now we're getting it.
     
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    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

    They didn't say all straight men so really for me the origins or history are irrelevant. When I hear the holy rollers talk about the loss of personal freedoms that will result from a liberal government I think what they are really saying is they will lose their self perceived right to dictate what personal freedoms people should have as judged by their moral compass. I could go into civil liberties for all citizens as dictated by the constitution as well but won't.

    Which brings us full circle to why Romney and especially Ryan lost the election by driving off fiscal conservatives like myself who are socially liberal. Until they separate church and state in their agenda as it should be they'll continue to lose ground.
     
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    I will be trashed soundly for this one but it's true, isn't it.

    Personally I believe live and let live, do as ye wish and may God be with thee.

    My View:
    God or something else created a Vagina on a women, then a Penis was created on a man, when the man inserted the Penis into the Vagina both the man and the women felt great pleasure, this pleasure motivated the man and the women to continue this physical union and in doing so created life, reproduction of the species, that was the plan, life would go on.

    God or something else created The Anal Canal For The Emission Of Human Waste.
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    are we looking for achealogical artifacts?

    does this even matter?

    can anyone pinpoint them moment intercourse went from being a reproductive need to being 'sex'?
     
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    God created homosexuality. Either that or nature created it. The end.
     
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    I'll repeat this link for the sake of discussion, referencing the underlying physiological determination of sexual orientation:

    Brain Study Shows Differences Between Gays, Straights - washingtonpost.com

    Also, the American Psychological Association declared in 1975 that gay/lesbian/bisexual orientation is not a mental illness or disorder:

    Sexual orientation, homosexuality and bisexuality

    Finally, I have a few gay friends I've discussed this with. Each said their sexual orientation was (A.) not a matter of choice and (B.) something they realized before entering puberty.

    In my humble opinion, evidence both scientific and anecdotal overwhelmingly points to homosexuality being inherent -- not "learned," "conditioned," a "disorder" or a matter of choice. Of course, there are numerous well-written Christian websites that attempt to argue otherwise.

    It might boil down to WHAT you CHOOSE to believe. But I find myself wondering why anyone would want to view homosexuality as a "disorder" or "illness" -- especially when so many gays/lesbians are productive members of society whose sexual preference (like us straights) manifests almost exclusively in the bedroom. It is nobody's business but theirs.

    It's like the abortion debate: Are you anti-abortion? Fine. Just don't have one. Are you anti-gay? Fine. Don't befriend one.
     
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    I always just chalked it up to a guy having a few chick chromosones and/or a chick having a few guy chromosomes........no biggie

     
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    Maybe the human mind created it, Japan is now creating "Female Robots" simply for sexual pleasure, they claim that the sensation is better than a real live women.

    On the warm summer nights under the prairie sky when the moon was bright the lonely Sheepherder snag songs and caressed his loved one, "baaaaaaaaaaaaa"
     
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    I just want to know why 2 chicks making out is so much hotter than 2 guys......and this notion is gender independent.......everyone (M or F) I know thinks so......

    is it just that chicks are so much hotter than guys in general? even hetro chicks sometimes like making our with other chicks than guys......does that even make sense?
     
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    Isn't the mind a product of nature or god? Thus, anything the mind can imagine is intended by nature or god?
     
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    I am on record in the forum as saying look no further than the animal kingdom to see examples just about everywhere ... it's part of evolution and as Jerry Seinfeld was fond of saying "Not that there's anything wrong with that."
     
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    Genetics, end of discussion.
     
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    The thing I can't wrap my head around is the genetics of it. Traits that reduce the likelihood of reproducing (i.e. reduce the likelihood of being passed on) should over time diminish in occurrence unless they are due to a frequently-occurring mutation. Maybe it is due to a set of genes that express as preference for the same sex only in particular combinations?
     
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    well.....everything comes down to genetics. I believe hormonal imbalances are also a player......
     
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    We've ran huge genetic screen between straight and gay people. No indication of a gay gene.

    In my opinion it's down to hormonal imbalances in the brains development during pregnancy, imbalances which are due to chance and happenstance than any preordained genetic input.

    Could be something as simple as X hormone not being produced for whatever reason (blocked channel, you name it).
     
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    Even though there is zero evidence for it.

    Evidence schmevidence.....the Progressive faith is the way to go!
     

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