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  1. DW Toys

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    ****Round 1****
    Pick Team Player Pos School

    1 1 Detroit Eugene Monroe OT Virginia

    1 2 St Louis Aaron Curry OLB Wake Forest

    1 3 KC>NE>CAR Matthew Stafford QB Georgia

    1 4 Seattle Jason Smith OT Baylor

    1 5 Cleveland Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech

    1 6 Cincinnati BJ Raji DT Boston College

    1 7 Oakland Andre Smith OT Alabama

    1 8 Jacksonville Vontae Davis CB Illinois

    1 9 Green Bay Brian Orakpo DE Texas

    1 10 San Francisco Mark Sanchez QB USC

    1 11 Buffalo Everette Brown DE Florida State

    1 12 Denver Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia

    1 13 Washington Michael Oher OT Mississippi

    1 14 New Orleans Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State

    1 15 Houston Aaron Maybin OLB Penn State

    1 16 San Diego Chris Wells RB Ohio State

    1 17 NY Jets Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest

    1 18 Chicago Tyson Jackson DE LSU

    1 19 Tampa Bay Peria Jerry DT Mississippi

    1 20 Detroit James Laurinaitis MLB Ohio State

    1 21 Phil>AZ>SD Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland

    1 22 Minnesota Robert Ayers DE Tennessee

    1 23 NE>K.C. Rey Maualuga MLB USC

    1 24 Atlanta Brian Cushing OLB USC

    1 25 Miami William Beatty OT Connecticut

    1 26 Baltimore DJ Moore CB Vanderbilt

    1 27 Indianapolis Eben Britton OT Arizona

    1 28 Philadelphia Jamon Meredith OT South Carolina

    1 29 NY Giants Larry English OLB Northern Illinois

    1 30 Tennessee Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri

    1 31 Arizona Percy Harvin WR Florida

    1 32 Pittsburgh Alex Mack OC California

    * * * * Round 2 * * * *

    2 33 Detroit Josh Freeman QB Kansas St

    2 34 K.C.>N.E. Sean Smith CB Utah

    2 35 St Louis>Buff Max Unger OC Oregon

    2 36 Cleveland Connor Barwin DE Cincinnati

    2 37 Seattle Donald Brown RB Connecticut

    2 38 Cincinnati Juaquin Iglesias WR Oklahoma

    2 39 Jacksonville Duke Robinson OG Oklahoma

    2 40 Oakland Clint Sintim OLB Virginia

    2 41 Green Bay Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech

    2 42 Buffalo Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St

    2 43 San Francisco Darry Beckwith MLB LSU

    2 44 Miami Marcus Freeman OLB Ohio State

    2 45 NY Giants Phil Loadholt OT Oklahoma

    2 46 Houston Patrick Chung SS Oregon

    2 47 New England Clay Matthews OLB USC

    2 48 Denver Louis Delmas FS Western Michigan

    2 49 Chicago>NYG William Moore FS Missouri

    2 50 Tampa Bay Darius Butler CB Connecticut

    2 51 Dallas Ron Brace DT Boston College

    2 52 NY Jets Herman Johnson OG LSU

    2 53 Philadelphia>AZ Victor Harris CB Virginia Tech

    2 54 Minnesota Kraig Urbik OG Wisconsin

    2 55 Atlanta Chase Coffman TE Missouri

    2 56 Miami Michael Hamlin SS Clemson

    2 57 Baltimore LeSean McCoy RB Pittsburgh

    2 58 New England James Casey TE Rice

    2 59 Carolina Jared Cook TE South Carolina

    2 60 NY Giants Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina

    2 61 Indianapolis Coye Francies CB San Jose St

    2 62 Tennessee Evander Hood DT Missouri

    2 63 Arizona Tyrone McKenzie OLB South Florida

    2 64 Pittsburgh Scott McKillop MLB Pitt

    * * * * Round 3 * * * *
    3 65 Detroit Jason Phillips MLB TCU

    3 66 St Louis>Buff Fenuki Tupou OT Oregon

    3 67 Kansas City Andy Levitre OG Oregon State

    3 68 Seattle>Cinn Paul Kruger DE Utah

    3 69 Dallas Rashad Johnson FS Alabama

    3 70 Cincinnati Jonathan Luigs OC Arkansas

    3 71 Oakland>Dallas Derrick Williams WR Penn State

    3 72 Jacksonville Javon Ringer RB Michigan State

    3 73 Green Bay Trevor Canfield OG Cincinnati

    3 74 San Francisco Zack Follet OLB California

    3 75 Buffalo Gerald McRath MLB Southern Miss

    3 76 NY Jets>Clevel. Andy Kemp G Wisconsin

    3 77 Houston David Veikune DE Hawaii

    3 78 San Diego Troy Kropog OT Tulane

    3 79 Denver Sen’Derrick Marks DT Auburn

    3 80 Washington Dorrell Scott DT Clemson

    3 81 Tampa Bay Cornelius Ingram TE Florida

    3 82 Detroit Antoine Caldwell C Alabama

    3 83 Green Bay Terrance Taylor DT Michigan

    3 84 Chicago Fili Moala DT USC

    3 85 Philadelphia Shawn Nelson TE So.Miss.

    3 86 Minnesota Mitch King DE Iowa

    3 87 Miami Mike Mickens CB Cincinnati

    3 88 Baltimore>St.L Chip Vaughn SS Wake Forest

    3 89 New England Eric Wood OC Louisville

    3 90 Atlanta Jairus Byrd CB Oregon

    3 91 NY Giants Shonn Greene RB Iowa

    3 92 Indianapolis Brian Robiskie WR Ohio State

    3 93 Carolina Kenny Britt WR Rutgers

    3 94 Tennessee Domonique Johnson CB Jackson State

    3 95 Arizona Dannell Ellerbe MLB Georgia

    3 96 Pittsburgh Lawrence Sidbury DE Richmond

    KC>NE>CAR 3 #3 from NE from KC for DE Peppers+NE 4th

    Phil>AZ>SD 21 Phil gets WR A,Bolden from AZ-AZ trades pick +4th to SD for RB L.Tomlinson

    NE>K.C. 23 Swap of Picks for QBCassel+RB Maroney and TE Thomas for TE Gonzales and RB L.Johnson (see#3)

    K.C.>N.E. 34 For QB Cassel (see#3)

    St Louis>Buff 35 For OT J.Peters

    Chicago>NYG 49 For WR P.Burress

    Philadelphia>AZ 53 For WR Bolden

    St Louis>Buff 66 For OT Peters+6th (see#35)

    Seattle>Cinn 68 For Chad Johnson+2nd or 3rd pending in 2010

    Oakland>Dallas 71 For WR Owens+OAK gets Dallas 6th+Dallas gets 4th or 5th pending in 2010

    NY Jets>Cleve. 76 For QB Anderson +QB Brad Smith+4th in 2009+3rd or 4th pending in 2010

    Baltimore>St.L 88 For WR T.Holt
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  2. DocE

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    Re: One dayu before F/A and trades that are possible and why along Full seven round d

    First of all, I have done a full 7 round mock once in my life, and have never done it again. I know it takes a ton of energy, and I appreciate that you took the time to do it.

    If the Patriots somehow ended up with Julius Peppers, Sean Smith, Clay Mathews, and Jarron Gilbert, I would be an extremely happy fan.

    I am not a big Rey Maualuga guy right now, and I'd take Maclin with that pick since he's available on your board. If he's not available, I'd look Beatty or Britton at OT.

    I like the Sean Smith pick

    I like the Mathews pick as well, but with Peppers already on board, I'd rather have Delmas, Butler or possibly Moore depending on if the Pats viewed Smith as a S or CB.

    The James Casey pick is another one I like, but I don't know if I could pass up Hakeem Nicks there (assuming I didn't get Maclin in round one).

    Eric Wood was another pick I like where you took him. My only question is can he play guard? Nobody can afford to carry 2 pure centers on their 53 man roster.

    Nic Harris ran really slow at the combine and I don't see him as a fit in NE as he's pretty much considered a LB now and more of a fit for a team like Tampa or the Colts.

    Boone the OT from Ohio State has some character issues and I don't see the Patriots being interested, though I think his skill represent him being a decent value where you take him.

    Bernard Scott seems like the anti-Patriot. He's been to like 5 schools, he's been in trouble with the law and he's like 24 or 25.
  3. patsox23

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    Re: One dayu before F/A and trades that are possible and why along Full seven round d

    That's a ton of work, and while I don't know about all those trades, it was certainly a blast to read. Thanks for the effort and good job. I think all Patriots fans would be very happy if that were the result.
  4. DW Toys

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    Re: One dayu before F/A and trades that are possible and why along Full seven round d

    Great points! Thanks. Jarron Gilbert was taken in the third by us in the compensatory picks for Samuel (I hope). Love Delmas as well but we need a SS and he is of the smaller size. Bob Sanders would be an example but BB likes his SS to play in the box as an extra LB. Although I have heard he is has gained five lbs.

    I want Smith to play CB. He has the speed and he is smooth. He is the Cromartie of this draft.

    Moore works for me at SS. His poor senior year pushes him down to us perhaps. He showed at the combine he is good and recovered from nagging injuries.

    Boone was at one time a first rounder. He is in remorse mode. He had the same issues as Jared Allen. Would be a waste of talent. At round five he might be a steal.

    I think Casey could play both TE and WR. He is the real deal and I have him rated higher on the boards than Nicks or Britt as far as all around value and versatility. Nicks would be great as would Britt but we really need a TE that stays healthy and can catch. We do not have that. He also plays QB, RB, DE and S plus he is more mature and a great citizen.

    DW Toys
  5. Richter

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    Re: One dayu before F/A and trades that are possible and why along Full seven round d

    I'd be sick if that happened. #3 overall AND a 4th for Peppers? Terrible. Passing over Darius Butler, William Moore and Ron Brace for Clay Matthews. I really, really hope nothing like this comes to pass.
  6. DaBruinz

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    Re: One dayu before F/A and trades that are possible and why along Full seven round d

    Your trades aren't well thought out. Larry Johnson isn't the runner he used to be because of the mismanagement by Herm Edwards.

    Sorry, but nothing you did is realistic.. even for a mock.
  7. VJCPatriot

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    Re: One dayu before F/A and trades that are possible and why along Full seven round d

    Am I missing something, because I only see 3 rounds mocked. You promised 7 rounds in the thread title.

    I'm also completely against going after Larry Johnson. Big salary, too much wear on the tires, over 30, and overrated. He's Eddie George II. People don't seem to learn from history. Look at his numbers the past 2 years. Those are the numbers of a RB in decline.

    Larry Johnson his last 2 years:
    8 games 559 yards 3.5 ypc
    12 games 874 yards 4.5 ypc

    I don't think Monroe will be as good as Jason Smith, so I think the wrong guy is going #1. I also don't think that Freeman will last to round 2 in a QB starved league. Someone will reach for him late in round 1. And that means that Detroit will still be screwed at QB. If they want Freeman, they'll have to spend their 20 on him. At which point they would have been better off by offering a package of #20 plus something for Cassel.

    If Jason Smith lasts to #2, St Louis will take him for sure and Curry will go #3 to KC. They have serious offensive line issues. And that starts at the tackles. And Andre Smith to Oakland at 7? He's going to slide a lot more than that from the Combine fiasco. I don't see it, and Oakland prefers to draft SPEED anyways. 8 is also too early for Vontae Davis.

    Basically I have a big problem with how your top 10 shakes out. So I don't see this as a realistic mock. It keeps coming across as your fantasy mock, rather than a mock draft that goes for realism, so it just doesn't have much reading value. Sorry.
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  8. DW Toys

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    Re: One dayu before F/A and trades that are possible and why along Full seven round d

    I wanted to weigh my "Mock" heavily with trades so please take that into account. It is not a pure seven round draft because of that. It was for fun but I did try to keep it as real if they happened. I am pretty realistic with the trades but as you know they might never happen in the NFL. I had to go to three seperate threads to get all seven rounds but they are all there. Just scroll down the Draft forum site. Sorry.
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    They say that A. Smith has the most talent but he loses the ranking because of the combine fiasco. Oakland might take a shot because the other two top OTs are gone and that is their major need. The tackles behind them are good but not as talented. If anyone drafts him that high it is crazy Al.
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