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  1. gomezcat

    gomezcat It's SIR Moderator to you Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

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    One thing that always pisses me off is this type of comment:

    ...as if Branch and Givens (or Brown and Patten before them), were ever considered an elite corp of receivers while they were here. It's revisionist history, looking back fondly on those days but forgetting that the fans were constantly wishing BB would draft a legitimate elite "big" receiver early in the draft because the iron smurfs were "so limited" and "injury prone". Remember the talk about trading up for Mike Williams? LOL.

    This team has won SBs with moderately good, but never elite, receivers. As a measure, guys like Dedic Ward and Fred Coleman were important contributors for us. The only reason we hear anything like the negative crap that Caldwell and Gaffney (and the alleged dropoff from Branch and Givens) is because it's an easy journalistic setup to introduce Moss and Stallworth. It's just bad journalism.

    And what pisses me off more is when observers frame Moss and Stallworth a too-little, too-late panic response by the braintrust to the sudden realization that losing Branch was a horrible mistake. Puh-lease. Branch wasn't as core to the Pats success as everyone seems to remember. Givens was never considered an elite receiver. Caldwell was productive and Gaffney quickly established an explosive game after joining the team mid-season.

    Gaffney, who I see as Branch's legitimate peer in terms of talent, signed for 2 years, $1.8M. Branch got 6 years $39M. The difference is shocking.

    Stallworth, who is a higher level of talent compared to Gaffney or Branch, if we keep him for all 6 years of his ridiculous contract, still signed for less money than Seattle spent on Branch... plus we're ahead the first rounder. In fact, Gaffney and Stallworth together will cost as much as Seattle spent on the Branch deal.

    Welker was signed to a 5 year $18M deal, which compares very well to the 5 year $24M deal the Titans gave Givens. And even after hitting a salary escalator, Caldwell will only cost $1.65M in 2007.

    So, for roughly the same money it would have taken to retain Branch and Givens, we got Gaffney, Caldwell, Stallworth and Welker. We're ahead in draft picks, even after spending the 2nd on Welker. How is this a panic response? This seems very calculated and methodical.

    Moss, of course, is a whole other side bet in the equation-- he's a HOF talent and something special. That deal was entirely a question of being opportunistic.
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  3. gomezcat

    gomezcat It's SIR Moderator to you Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Your points about the receiver corps are well made. It wasn't as if Branch or Given scored home runs or made leaping catches all the time. That isn't to say that they were bad, either. They did a solid job.

    With Moss and Stallworth, if they perform to potential, the Pats have the true deep threats that they have lacked for several years. Moss's value can be measured in all sorts of ways. However, his ability to draw double coveragem creating opportunities for others, stands out. Then you look at Welker, Caldwell and Gaffney and it starts to look really good. As others have said in other threads, I don't get the dislike that exists for Caldwell. He did a good job last year and caught most of what was thrown his way. Add a developing Chad Jackson and Kelley Washington and..... wow.

    I'm still nervous, but then I'm always nervous. It's just who I am...

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