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On immigration, which comes closest to your view?

  1. I support the amnesty plan

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  2. No amnesty. Send the illegals home.

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  3. Leave the system as is.

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  1. Patters

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    Again, which comes closest to your views?
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    I certainly don't agree with amnesty it didn't work before and it won't work now.
    But sending them home is not practical either. That is, without going national socialist on them and use the same method they use to transport chickens.
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    #24 Jersey

    As things stand, send them home (making the big assumption we could find them but that's not what this is about).

    I would be much more lenient in letting them stay if we had other changes like no health care except for catastrophic issues and REQUIRED English speaking (as in "illegal to speak Spanish or other languages"). Racist you say ? To me it's not different from being fined for not wearing a seatbelt - tough love, something that helps you.

    But short of serious steps like that, SEND THEM HOME and BUILD A HUGE WALL.
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    I would support the wall except that eventually it may keep US from leaving.
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    Rich People's NEW SLAVES.

    Did you see what the dirty bastards did to Miss USA, imagine the outrage and screams of Racism if we did that to Miss Mexico.

    Imagine if Don Imus did it :singing:
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    The round em up and deport em stuff is absolute political jibberish. As if we'd pass some kind of plan (which we don't need anyway, as we only need to enforce the fricken laws we have now), and the next day would round up 10-20 million illegals and kick them out. That's just political nonsense aimed at getting the public to sympathize with illegals. That shadows BS is another line of fecle matter that the Amnesty lovers like to spew. Talk about some great plan eh? We have a problem with an illegal invasion on a scale that is unprecedented in our history, so what do we look to do to rectify it? I know, we just make them LEGAL. :violent: What morons we have in office. Let's use that same logic and apply it to the defecit ok. Hmmm...we're $8+ Trillion in debt, what do we do? I got it, lets print more money! :confused:

    The saddest part in all this is that it's been done before. It was done as a "one-time" deal that was supposed to end the madness once and for all. Guess what? We're going to try to "one-time" the failure that is called Amnesty. Why is it that people don't talk about the costs illegals impose on our taxpayers (middle class families) when discussing all the BS? Why don't people debate the issue out in the open? Why are they behind closed doors putting together a plan to destroy this country while spewing more emotional rhetoric in the news? Anyone that votes for Amnesty will never get a vote from me. We need LEGAL immigrations, controlled, organized, and fair. We need to enforce the laws we have on the books and make sure that people respect our borders & laws. What we don't need is back room deals to sell out the middle class and bancrupt our country so that some dope can have a legacy, some corporations can be guaranteed a subsidized labor force ensuring another $30 million bonus, nor some sell-out party that is looking to secure a generational hold on power, by legalizing 20 million illiterate poor people.

    Bye, bye America. :(
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    This is our 3rd time we are doing a "one time only fix that will solve the problem permanently".

    Well, we had a good run while it lasted... but history has shown us all societies suffer a decline eventually, usually from within. That is what is happening here.
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    #24 Jersey

    I have little problem with immigration, even illegally. However, like I said, it needs to be people who want to assimilate into our culture and not just live here, snagging freebies and acting like it's Mexico.

    No welfare unless you're trying to work. No free health care unless it's catastrophic. No speaking other languages while not being able to speak English (and therefore be productive). Etc.
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    What's sad is that this isn't really a political issue to the average joe. This isn't about left or right, dem or repub. This issue is about America, it's people, and it's way of life. I can't say it enough that those who look at this issue through the eyes of the political vermin in Washington are doing a disservice to themselves, and to the country. We've been invaded. We have no clue as to who is in this country. We have no control over what kinds of people are coming here. The loons in office, for numerious selfish reasons, are selling out the greatest society on earth for personal gain. It's extremely upsetting because of how gulible so many of the sheep have become on this issue.
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    BF, I'm the son of two LEGAL immigrants. I totally understand how great a place this country is, and what opportunity it provides, and am not trying to stop people from coming here. I favor LEGAL immigration. It has to be controlled and organized. We're running massive deficits. Healthcare in this country is of grave concern. What do you think legalizing 10-30 million poor people is going to do? Immigration has to be controlled, especially since we have such a massive welfare state. Legal immigration, not illegal.
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    I vote:

    D) Treat the illegals as members of an invading army and station the national guard on our southern border with orders to shoot to kill.

    Think about it... in a war when there is an invasion, you have large amounts of people illegally crossing a border to take over a neighboring country, take over their government, usurp their resources (both economic and natural) and raise their own flag over the conquered land. How is that any different from what is happening right here and right now in our very own United States..?
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    what national guard do you plan on using? The one thats stoplossed in Iraq?
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    Lol, nevermind the laws of war about only shooting uniformed soldiers. Or at least people who are armed. I'm glad 90% of the country is more warm-blooded than a few of the snakes that crawl around these forums.
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    So what are your thoughts on illegal immigration, and how do you think the US should handle the current situation? Do you support the current Amnesty bill that is being proposed?
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    Well, that's an entirely separate matter all together. Let's just say that the Mexican invasion and takeover of the United States began - and will continue - far beyond the Iraq War.
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    #91 Jersey

    NO amnesty for illegal aliens,If we legalise the 12 milion now there will be another 12 mill in ten years. They should come through the front door just like my parents did and learn english.They are driveing down wages in alot of areas including constrution, and meat packing which used to pay a middle class wage.The next time theres a raley with illegals waveing Mexican flags, ICE should just back tractor trailers up and pack them in and send them back from where the came. But it's not only them.Big buisness is culpable to by hireing them, they should get hit with large fines for it.
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    Your right, now your going to get it.
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    #91 Jersey

    By who Harry the bleeding hearts? The only logical argument they could come up with is that it would be to hard to find them all. How can you make a case for someone who's not a citizen. they HAVE NO RIGHTS there being here is against the law.
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    All humans have some rights in America. Go punch an illegal alien in front of a cop - he might get deported, but you're gonna get charged with assault.
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    Stop it now, you're making sense and thus are probably just racist. :D

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