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OLD DEAD 2007 THREAD Pats show interest in dealing for Moss

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  1. NEPat

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    According to Tomase in today's Herald:

    http://patriots.bostonherald.com/patriots/view.bg?articleid=186445

    Belichick may indeed love him, and as the article points out they've taken risks on questionable character guys like Dillon before...

    I would've said 'no way' if you asked me a few days ago, but as crazy as the offseason has been so far, I'm not ruling anything out.
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    Well.. you bring in a bunch of vet's who want to win a Superbowl and what do you have...
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    I would rather get Stallworth before Moss....
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    Interesting.... I liked Moss in Minnesota... There's the deep threat everyone's been looking for... Hmmm... I like the idea...
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    I'd probably agree here but wouldn't be disappointed if we got Moss... Primarily because Stallworth is only 25.
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    Ehhhhh. It worked with Dillon but Moss is 30 and he isnt known for being a hard worker or a team player. But who knows? If he goes to a competitive team that might be different.

    If we got him and it somehow worked out, it would be a very good thing but I am personally worried about how the locker room will react if he somehow came here.
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    The only question about this is his salary, he is making close to 10m this year, not sure if we have that much wiggle room right now.. hate to see him tied up for this much money at the expense of our depth. OTOH I think he could be neutralized on this team, and be an asset.
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    You can't bring the age factor into this since Dillon was either 29 or 30 when we got him. And RBs don't usually play as long as WRs do. Other than that, nobody really knows I guess what could happen. Without taking the risk though, there might not be a reward. Personally, I wanted Drew Bennett the most, but that's over. Stallworth or Moss would give us the deep threat we need IF they play to their potential. That big IF is especially bigger for Moss.
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    I think he should come down here and hook back up with Daunte. Can you imagine the down field passing game the Dolphins would have with Culpepper, Moss and Chambers?
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    As someone who had chambers on my fantasy team last year there wasn't a whole helluva lot of hooking up downfield with him.
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    You can thank Mr. Joey I can't throw the ball more than 10 yard Harrington for that one.
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    Or Mike "I Won't Have My Quarterbacks Throw the Ball More Than Ten Yards" Mularkey.


    OT: Did the 'phins retain Mularkey after they made Cameron OC?
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    Keep in mind in this discussion about dealing Moss the possibility of the Pats looking to move down in the draft. A pick swap (NE's #24 for OAK's #33) carries a 180 point value, equivalent to a mid-3rd round pick. Perhaps such a deal could be swung with minimal draft pick cost.
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    While intriguing, I don't see Al Davis swinging a deal like that, it just seems foolish, and despite what we all may say/think, it's still Randy Moss, and to trade him without gaining anything except moving up five spots in the draft is still a little foolish. The actual third round pick, although possibly being lower, would probably be more realistic. Or the third round pick and the swap.
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    Yes. A team not only has to bring in new players but also has to bring in new hunger.
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    What the hell...IF he agrees to restructure his contract than lets get him and as people like to say Brady never has had a true #1 WR.
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    Absolutely, bring him in. If BB is willing to spend a 2nd on Welker, surely he'd do as much for Moss. Moss is a top-5 WR in the NFL, unquestionably.

    BB is famous for not evaluating players' success based on how they play for other teams. A HOF player playing for a team like Oakland would come away with all kinds of rumors that he's lost a step, or isn't focused.

    And even if he did need a mental adjustment, surrounding him with a squad of Patriots should solve the question. There are two ways he can respond to the Pats: Terry Glenn or Corey Dillon. With those two as examples, who would choose to be the next Glenn?
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    I have to agree with that...
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    Here is also what I wont do either, a thrid round pick and say Assante Samual for him... If Miami matches the Welker offer, I say a 2 and a 4 at the most... But no higher than a second .. But then again why would Oakland give us a discount...
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    If I could be assured that he wouldn't be a locker room distraction, I'd feel better about the idea. But I don't know, this is starting to feel a little Redskin-esque to me....
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    I just read the Boston Herald and it seems that BB seems to like him

    After the way FA has started I can see this happening! imo
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    That's what I find so incongrous about the Moss speculation. So far all our signings have involved players who are humble and possess the team-first attitude. Granted those qualities can be difficult to find among proven WR's but Randy Moss just screams "bad work ethic,bad attitude,look at ME" and he's getting up there besides. Will he magically change playing for BB? Throw in his hefty contract and I just don't see the Pats veering this far from their overall philosophy. BB may like Moss but he'd be a high-risk signing imo.
    If he does end up here,I'll support him and pray he proves me and any other nay-sayers dead wrong,but I can envision Moss whining because he doesn't get the ball enough or scenarios along those lines.
    Corey may have had "issues" but none of his issues revolved around his dedication to the game or his work ethic. He busted his butt during his heyday and will be counted as one of the best RB's of all time.
    Moss doesn't come close to the original Corey Dillon we knew and loved.
    FWIW I'd also point out we seem to have enough drama as it is:bricks: ....
    Ohwell-if Randy Moss ends up sporting a Flying Elvis then he'll have my support.
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    I think Moss has shown to be a quitter and a consistent problem child on every team he has played on. I don't see Belichick bringing a guy like that in here......now stallworth....that is another story...he is a young kid that could produce for many years......Would rather see us go that way.....One man's opinion....GO PATS!!!!
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    I think there would have to be some major restructuring of his contract (10mil this year and 11 mil next) though. I don't know the rules as well as I'd like to, can the patriots ask him to take a pay cut across the entire contract or does any guaranteed money have to be paid eventually?
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    I knew that was coming. That's all I hear. "CULLPEPPA AND MOSS DOWN HERE BABY. DOIN WHAT THEY DID IN MINNESOTA BABY. DOLPHINS, BABY, DOLPHINS!" Culpepper's knee and psyche are both shot so good luck with that.

    And yeah. As for Randy Moss...

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    Just say no, Bill.
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    I'm not sure why some people are suggesting that Moss isn't a hard working or dedicated player or a bad teammate.

    It's widely known that Moss is a hugely dedicated, very hard working, studious football player who hates to lose. Even BB himself has pointed this out in the past.

    Moss might be a pot smoking, punk who takes plays off but few players in this game love it as much as he does, work as hard at his craft as he does, study and understand the game as he does, and hate to lose as he does. The fact that he's the most physcially talented WR to ever play the game is an added bonus with this guy.

    It's no surprise to me that the Pats supposed interest in the guy won't go away.

    If the Pats are able to find a way to add Randy Moss the road to the SB will be much easier than if they didn't.
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    I was all for supporting a grab for Moss at the trading deadline last season, but that was because we had major problems at wide out. Now we have the draft still ahead and just started free agency. Why would we go after this overpaid lockerroom pox? He is also likely not the player on the field he once was. Come on people! Surely there are other options?
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    If the Pats were to get Randy Moss, we win the superbowl... Point blank
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    While I agree with that statement, the addition of Randy Moss to the Patriots would remind me of the acquisition of Terrell Owens by the Eagles prior to the '04 season. And we all know how that ended.
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