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Ohio: Strickland (D) over Blackwell (R) by 16%

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    #24 Jersey

    We'd all better start savings our pennies if the Dems are taking over.

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    #37 Jersey

    Electing democrats in 2006 will only help the Republican presidential nominee in 2008.
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    Are you implying the republicans are worse at fiscal responsibility? :eek:
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    I am not sure if you can trust what Belichickfan says about fiscal resposbility.

    The dude talks like he is a know-it-all, but if you pay closer attention to what he does, you will see he prevaricate quite a bit.

    First he likes to lecture about investing in S&P 500, constantly reminding us about the virtue of the S&P 500. Well, it turns out he invested his own money in speculative precious metals and risky select-industry funds.

    Then he likes to brag about saving his money in his 401k account, but it turns out he is driving around town in a gas-guzzling SUV.

    I am not sure if you can put much stock in a guy who says one thing and turn around does the opposite thing.

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    #24 Jersey

    Not true. Yes, I have most of my retirement money, my 401K, in an S&P 500 index. Do I have a little in others like Precious Metals and Energy ? Yes. But each of those I have about 10% of what I have in the S&P 500.

    Regarding the SUV, first of all that was my wife's thing, it wasn't my choice. Second, it gets low 20s in mileage which isn't that bad. Third, we only drive that out of town, we have better mileage cars for just driving around town. Fourth, living in a small town we could get 10 MPG and still not use that much gas.
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    #24 Jersey

    I'm not implying anything, I'm saying directly that more of my money will be go to government taxes with the Democrats in charge. Regarding fiscal responsibility, I'm no happier than anyone else about the national debt or government spending.
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    Are you by any chance among the 1% richest Americans?

    Also, did you live in America during the last Democrat administration?


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    #24 Jersey

    Nope. I wish I was, though.

    In fact, I did.
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    What makes you say that more of your money will go to Dems? Are you talking about yourself, specifically? If so, you might be right if you're pulling 200g's a year. If so, good for you and I see your point. Truth is, though, to reign in the debt, the government will have to do one or both of two things: Reduce spending and/or raise taxes. The government we are presently burdened with is incapable of controlling themselves, but raising taxes is political suicide, so the default position politically, IMO, is spending reduction.

    I'm for reduced spending, beginning with a massive draw-down of foreign troop deployment and weapons manufacturing of systems we will never need or use. As a libertarian of the lunatic fringe variety, I'm also for elimination of many government programs, beginning with subsidies of energy and agriculture corporations - hell, how about ending all business subsidies? I never understood that concept in a "free market" society.
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    The only difference I see when it comes to fiscal matters is the dums tax and spend while the rapes borrow and spend. Either way it comes back to bite us in the arses.

    Dubai Bush has got us in quite a fiscal pickle hasn't he? He'll be dead and buried long before his financial mess is cleaned up.
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    #24 Jersey

    No, I don't make that money but I'm solidly middle class and pay less in taxes now that in 2000. Not way less, but less. Regarding political suicide, reducing spending is just as bad politically as raising taxes. I have no doubt that's why Bush burdoned us with paying for Grandpa's Viagra, to take that away from the Dems in 2004.
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    Unless you consider the possibility he was simply feathering the nests of those big Pharma lobbyists who throw campaign contributions their way each election cycle. That seems more likely.
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    Elderly men are the most likely to vote. What more can a politician do for them than give them a chubber for 5 hours?:rolleyes:
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    If you are not among the richest 1% Americans, you do not have to worry about increase taxes.

    Now, I have another question:

    Are you for budget surplus or budget deficit?


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    #24 Jersey

    Surplus, obviously. But I want it through low taxes and lower spending. And no, I'm not saying that Bush provides the latter but I know the Dems won't provide the former either.

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