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  1. Patradomous

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    That Mitt is a smart man.

    Hows that convention bounce working out for ya?
     
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    Ha!....47%!
     
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    Gallup is still using a registered voter screen and a dem +3 sample (IIRC), but 47% for the incumbent at this stage in the election cycle is terrible.
     
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    What is the current electoral college projections???..

    Obama 231
    Romney 191

    The RNC just pulled out of Michigan, and are considering the same in Pennsylvanioa.......
     
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    This is obviously due to the news that Mitt funded 1/2 of the Milk budget, for a short time over 18 years ago.

    I'll be more interested in the polling later this week, when it includes Mitt's views when talking to his wealthy donors. Lets see how Friday looks, shall we?

    last time I checked, 47% was a larger # than 46%, I'll have to check with the math department though.....
     
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    Lets see what was Romney saying back in April or May?

    47% of the people aren't going to vote for him anyway.
     
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    The polls help romney look good but it's just window dressing ... he needs all of the leaning Romney states and most of the tweener states to pull a victory.

    RealClear has it ... 237 Obama vs 191 Romney

    He needs 79/110 of the votes below to reach 272.
    31 lost from below loses it for him.

    Colorado (9)
    Florida (29)
    Iowa (6)
    Nevada (6)
    New Hampshire (4)
    North Carolina (15)
    Ohio (18)
    Virginia (13)
    Wisconsin (10)

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html

     
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    you are leaving out the part where he also said its not his job to worry about 'those people'

    sweet campaigning!
     
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    This campaign is John Kerry GOP style ... a train wreck.
    Do these people not pay attention to history and attempt to learn anything from the mistakes of others?
     
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    I really think that many people do not understand this, thus the glee and fascination with raw polls..

    If Obama loses the vote, but wins the electoral college then there will be how unfair this whole process is.. or how he cheated.
     
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    Here Here Icy! Nice post.

    It is a train wreck, although, honestly not sure what that means for the final numbers.

    I do know (rather think) the following. Obama has disillusioned many of the voters who voted for him last time; obviously not Team Either Or FTW types, but Independent voters which is where this election will be won (obviously)

    There was actually a point in time where I thought the Rs, as long as than ran out a semi decent candidate, would probably win by default.

    But my goodness has this process been unkind to Mitt. All he had to do was keep his mouth shut and with the world burning around us, would have been seen as a positive....he just didnt have it in him I guess.

    Now having said that, I do think all these videos are being released for political gain, and at a time when the focus should be on Obama's words and actions as the leader of the free world (you know the person, who this minute, can actually do something more the vote pandering?), we are instead focusing on a person who could be something....national ADD etc etc.

    Politics......its a stinky cologne.
     
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    This is the latest Karl rove trend line ... he's very good IMO.
    he shows the undecideds trending downward and Obama trending up at a better clip than Romney. Romney needs the debates like yesterday and he needs to slam dunk them. I would think the Middle East is hurting Obama but I guess i am wrong thinking that because the graph does not show it.

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    Election 2012 | Karl Rove
     
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    D-sizzle,

    to be clear, these videos came out a few months ago. It wasn't until recently that they were confirmed to be Romney.
     
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    I prefer D-Money :)

    hahahahahahahahaha

    Right....the point remains though don't it?

    Again, as I said in one of the other threads, I'm not defending what Romney said, he can do that.

    But it is curious to me that these were sitting around for 4 months......and only confirmed now.
     
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    Still don't believe the Michigan spin but hey guess what? Wisconsin is in play!
     
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    Where's the talk of $4 gas, QE3, a record 8+ million on disability, $16+ trillion in national debt, as well as hundreds of thousands dropping from the workforce, and what each candidate plans to do about it? There is none. It's absolutely incredible how little the issues have been discussed, at a time when the country is in complete shambles both at home, and abroad.
     
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    Apparently not that many people are concerned or notice....
     
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    D-moNAY.....moNAY!

    (can you name the movie?)

    If they ever release the name of the leaker, we will have more answers to our questions. But for now we can assume safely that the person is motivated by politics, and a donor of Romney at one point.
     
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    Those sound like about 47% of the issues I have no control over, so I don't worry about them, ya know?
     
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    Doesn't fit the MSM narrative to help Obama.
     

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