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Is the season over?

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  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. ausbacker

    ausbacker Brady > Manning. PatsFans.com Supporter

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    This defense is putrid.
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    Re: Defense? What defense!!!

    I hope this defense gets ******* chewed out.
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    Re: Defense? What defense!!!

    this defense is awful regardless of what any one wants to say to try and defend it they lost the game after brady tied it..........
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    Official Pats-Bills postgame show/thread

    I expect this will turn ugly quickly.
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    Definitely not over but, I've said it before if McCourty is still a Pat in the post season it will be a short post season.
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    If anyone actually thinks the season is over at 2-1 then that person is an idiot.
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    Maybe now it's accurate.
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    Agree.

    If nothing changes after Thanksgiving, then it's trouble.
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    After Brady throws a Pick...

    Is anyone else disturbed at Brady's lack of effort to make a tackle? I only seen one angle on the pick 6, but it looked like he had no interest in attempting to make a tackle.
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    Benched Ocho, and start Price.
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    Amen to that
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    Big play safeties? I couldn't even guess which safeties will end up playing most. We have all special teamers bak ther, as far as i can tell. Plus, we're fairly ordinary without Haynesworth. It's early and Buff is pumped and playing well. Games like this at the end of the season are more of a concern, not that we shouldn't have won, though.

    I seriously don't see us going anywhere without an upgrade at safety. A good safety would make McCourty look much better imo.
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    Someone please explain it to me. I just don't get it. When a guy with a known pedigree for defense has had several seasons to build this defense while each year ticks away on the Brady clock and this is what we get. Why does the defense continually suck. At first, it was because they were old, then they were too young and rebuilding. I believe the Pats should be at the point where the defense is actually suppose to be good, if at least average. Why then do they seem to have gotten worse from even last year? I'm trying to find the silver-lining. I'm not worried about Brady or the offense one bit, but I'm beginning to think that McCourty is way overrated and even Mayo a little bit. Can someone please talk me away from the cliff?
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    Well done to the Bills on a very good victory today.

    We stunk it up. But they hung in there and got a great win.
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    The Woody INT was a turning point in the game. Could easily have been 24-7 or 28-7 at the half, instead 21-10.

    One other thing to consider with time running out at the end. Ocho's big drop for a TD was at the 8:18 mark of the 4th quarter. Welker would eventually crack the end zone over 4 and a half minutes later, with 3:33 left in the game. That drop didn't affect the score but did affect the amount of time we'd have at the end of the game.

    McCourty gave up the outside routes all the time and I'm not sure why, but it's clear there was little to no safety help most of the time for him and Bodden. Barrett also made 3 of the worst attempts at tackles I've seen since Cromartie was a Charger. Need some safety help here.
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    It's game three, they're 2-1. My only concern is, they have no talent at safety. Other than that, the D has some new parts and coming together in Dec is what counts. Defense is about coordination, it takes a while.
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    Maybe if they'd had Chung. . . .
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    Did Sanders/Meriweather make McCourty look good, despite the fact that people trashed both safeties?
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    It ain't over till I say it's over! We let em off the hook! The Pats will play their hearts out against the Raiders next week!
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    I wouldn't put a whole lot of this on Brady. 4 picks is a horrible thing for your stat line, but 2 tipped balls, Ocho got beaten like a red headed step child and lost position, and the safety on the Gronk throw just made a great play. They weren't gift wrapped interceptions, and I think most QBs would still make those throws.

    The defense is awful though. It's otherworldly how bad they are. I think the best course of action would be for them to just let not try for a half, and let the Pats hurry up wear down the oppositions defense.

    I didn't feel good about this game all week though, these aren't the same old Bills, and their team in fans seem to have a guy to stand behind with Fitz.
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    It would appear that it is possible
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    Belichick screwed up at the safety position. His penchant for getting rid of guys just before the start of the season worked once, and now he seems to think it's going to work every time.
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    BB is to blame. We don't have any one to rely on when Brady stinks. We need a game changing RB. Might be Ridley but BJGE is just a decent and disciplined back on a great pass offense. A deep threat WR would be nice but it's just a luxury because we can survive without them.
    On the pass offense, we have play makers like Gronk, Welker, Hernandez and Brady...with a very good OLine.
    On defense, it's a different story. Wilfork and Mayo have been good but not excellent. Chung is very solid and I think he would develop into a star. McCourty would be fine but we need to improve out pass rush. BB has been unable to address this issue. I'm yet to see the benefit of dumping McGowan, Sanders and Meriweather. Brown and Barett would never be as nice.
    Defense wins championships and we haven't had a stemmed defense in a long time
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    Its so frustrating. Sanders was one of the smarter players on defense and always the most consistent DB, Meriweather deserved criticism but at least he could fly to the ball and deliver some nice hits (even if he missed some tackles). :mad:

    Plus they were good at clutching **** up towards the end of games and racked in some INT's to kill some comebacks from other teams.
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    Chung would have helped some, but Meriweather and/or Sanders would have helped lots more.

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    The Pats had 4 turnovers...that was the reason they lost, not the defense.
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    That may well be, but that bridge was crossed several weeks ago.
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    your only 50 percent right... the defense has no none nilll pass rush
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    not to mention the drafting of such studs as wheatley, butler, whilhite , shall we go on....
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    Nope. Defense cannot stop anybody. Fitz & Jackson did whatever they wanted all game.
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