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  1. alphilip77

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    Just thought I'd start a thread for tomorrow's game with the Jags and the Colts. It's a long shot, but I'm pulling for the Jags. Indy fans and Manning need a slice of humble pie this year by missing the playoffs. They need to know how we felt in '08 when we wanted a second shot at the SB and never got the opportunity! Go Jags! Go Pocket Hercules!!!:rocker:
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    I'm always rooting for the Jags unless they play the Pats. That said, I think the Colts are taking this game tomorrow. :(
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    Cris Carter saw your thread title and thought it was about Deion Branch.
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    If colts win this game, do they have the tiebreaker back into 1st? I think colts win this one 31-17.
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    ARAC- Always Root Against Colts
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    yeah, if indy wins tomorrow and their next 2 after that, they'd hold the tie-breaker.

    personally, the only 2 teams i really don't want to play are indy and sd. nothing would be better than kc, jax, and nyj getting berths and taking up 50% of the field, in my opinion.

    indy plays oakland in wk 16, then hosts tenn in wk 17--so this one against jax tomorrow will be big as far as their playoff chances go
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    i see indy taking this one and making it into the playoffs somehow :bricks:
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    Something to keep in mind:

    8-5 Jacksonville has already defeated 7-6 Indianapolis. So if the Jaguars win, the Colts cannot win the division; that victory will clinch the AFCN for Jacksonville. Absolute best the Colts could hope for is to go on the road as a wild card team.

    If the Colts do happen to win, it's no guarantee they win the division. Jacksonville's last two games are home against the Redskins and then at Houston - two very winnable games. The Colts would have to travel cross country to play at Oakland, and are then home against Tennessee.

    However things do look good for the Colts if the two teams finish tied. As far as tiebreakers go, if the Jags win, they win the division even if both teams finish 9-7 because they would have beat Indy twice. If the Colts win then the next tiebreaker would be division, which would come down to the two week 17 games (Jax-Hou, Ind-Ten).

    After that the next tiebreaker is common games. Simplest way to figure that out is to just remove the two games that are not common games: Indy lost to the Pats and beat Cincy; Jacksonville beat Cleveland and beat Buffalo. So subtract 1-1 from Indy's record and subtract 2-0 from Jacksonville's record; in case of a tie Indy wins the common opponents tiebreaker.

    Incredible to think that things may once again come down to a week 17 game between the Colts and Titans.
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    #24 Jersey

    I believe they go to OAK, not HOU, but your point is well taken nonetheless.

    I do not see as complicated a view on it, if IND wins tomorrow, they have a very good shot at winning the division, and hold the tie-breaker over JAX.

    If IND loses tomorrow, there's no way they're getting a WC at 9-7 (imo). The WC likely will come from a 10-6+ team. I don't personally see a 9-7 team making it in this year, but your point is valid, as they would still be alive.

    Respects.
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    I am rooting for the Colts. But only mildly. This one of those...who cares games.
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    Semi-OT but why is indy hosting KC and going to oak again this year? In 07 when they faced the AFC West they also hosted KC and went to oakland. Just though it was kinda weird.
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    good question, and good find.

    i'd be interested too.
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    The NFL switched the rotation of who played whom in the AFCW - and also the NFCW as I recall. Reason for that was to avoid the situation they had in the past where two teams from other divisions would have to travel the furthest (at SD, at Oakland) and two other teams from the same division would have much shorter distances to travel (at KC, at Denver).



    Also, supafly, thanks for pointing that out - that (at Oakland) is what I was thinking and meant to say.
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    Ok thanks that makes sense. They probably shoulda planned that out ahead of time.
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    I hope and really HOPE the Jags pull this one out. They must all realise this game could be there season. Its a playoff game for both teams!
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    Yeah, they were trying to avoid situations such as in 2008 when the Pats and Jets both travelled to San Diego and Oakland, while Miami and Buffalo only had to travel to Kansas City and Denver. Now all four teams in a division make one long trip (either SD or Oak) and one medium-long trip (KC or Den) when they play the AFCW.
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    What's the mean for the pats next year? I hope they aren't going to san diego again. Would be nice if it was @ oakland instead of @ either denver or kansas city.
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    If the Colts don't win out, chances are they don't go to the playoffs even as a wild card so its either division or bust. Secondly if the Colts don't win the division it will be the first time in what, at least 4 or 5 years since there WASN'T a Brady vs Manning game. I don't know about other people but I think that is one of the best rivalries to date and to not have a game like that played, just seems very un-natural. I know it will be a challenge but nonetheless it's an awesome came to get ready for AND to spectate.
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    Actually, it's only been 2 years since there wasn't a Brady vs Manning game, which was '08 and Matt Cassel was the QB.
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    If the Colts lose this, I don't see them making the playoffs. Best they could finish is 9-7 and I don't see SD finishing worse than that. Ravens have the other WC spot. Only thing that could help them is the Chiefs losing 2 of 3, don't think that will happen.

    David Garrard talked all that **** on twitter towards Manning, it'll be up to him to back it up tomorrow. He better!
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    really, i dont know about that. i think next time pats play AFCW, it will be SD and OAK in foxboro and den/kc on the road .Buff and miami will have the reverse.
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    It took me a little while, but I did find a couple things that seem to verify the schedule rotation has changed slightly.

    http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...st-won-patriot-away-tickets-2011-a-page2.html
    Sneak peek at Pats' 2011 opponents - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston
    Learned something new on scheduling - NFC West Blog - ESPN

    It does make sense to do it this way so that teams don't have situations like the Pats did in '08 when they played four games on the west coast, or like the situation I mentioned in '08 where two AFCE teams have to travel to CA twice, while two other AFCE teams don't have to travel to CA even once.
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    oh.....haha I was actually referring to a Patriots v Colts matchup overall, just used the wrong terms explaining it. Your right though. lol The Patriots vs the Colts, middle of the season matchup. The Sunday night primetime games in Indi but when in Foxborough on CBS. lol
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    honestly the jags are at this moment almost every yr with all the mediots getting on the bandwagon with the same old theory of "they can run the ball on the colts" only ultimately to crap the bed. i have zero confidence they will win tomorrow. they will not be able to run the ball initially ,manning will get ahead and gerrard will throw a pick at some point.
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    Agreed. If every Jags fan read that, they could save themselves 3 hours tomorrow, which could be better spent drinking away their tears.
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    In spending all my speculative thoughts on the playoffs and the 2011 draft picks, I forgot completely about schedule implications next year. Barring some weird change like for an 18 game schedule, the current plan is to have the AFC East "non-common" games be the AFC North and South. If the standings hold as they are now, this means:

    Pats: Jags, @Steelers
    Jets: Colts, @Ravens

    Which would you rather have? Given the Pats history of struggling with the Colts and Ravens, I'll gladly take David Garrard and playing a Steelers team the Pats have traditionally owned, even on the road.
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    I never root for the Colts however I'm in the camp that would like to see a Manning vs Brady game in the 2011 season plus if the Colts end up the 4 seed I cannot see them coming into Foxboro and winning a game in January. Thus bounding them from the playoffs is gold. Although I'll always believe Brady > Manning there is that Bird vs Magic aspect and having lived though that I won't take any game vs the two for granted. I want as many games as possible between the two before it's over.
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    I feel sad for Kontra then
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