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    Re: O'Connell and Hodel released

    Congratulations to Ingram.


    O'Connell never made sense, and now that bizarre chapter is closed.
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    Re: O'Connell and Hodel released

    Room for Seward and Peppers now?



    ... sorry, bad joke I know
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    Re: O'Connell and Hodel released

    I guess it is time to start up a new dynasty... people that weren't even around for the SB run are moving on...
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    The Pats are now down to 75, with Bruschi included among those 75 since he has not yet been placed on Reserve/Retired.

    *Note: I do not believe the Pats have officially announced McKenzie to IR, meaning that the Pats are at 76. But both his and Bruschi's moves are anticipated to go down by 4 PM tomorrow.
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    Re: O'Connell and Hodel released

    LOL. A little one, but still.
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    Quick question, How does Bruschi's retirement affects the cap space ?
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    We take a cap hit but he frees up about 1.5mil I think. check Miguels site. Patscap.com
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    I believe I read it's 1.5 million.
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    Re: O'Connell and Hodel released

    I'm surprised that they cut a #3 draft pick so quickly but it was

    pretty obvious that O'Connell had regressed very badly from his

    rookie year. Also, I thought that Hoyer looked better than O'Connell.
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    I was figuring that if both long snappers were equal, Ingram would get it given his youth and most likely lower salary.
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    I wonder what punishment if any the Patriots will dish out to the scout who recommended KOC?

    Will he be outright fired?

    Someone has to take the blame for this. It should be like that scene in "The Untouchables" where Al Capone uses a baseball bat to instill discipline.
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    Maybe it's the same guy who recommended TFB.
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    Bingo. The draft is a crap shoot. Win some, lose some. Ultimately, BB is responsible. Evaluate him by his record.
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    .....or allowed klinefan access to a keyboard(gentle jibe)
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    I suspect the players Hoyer played against were of lower calibre than those KOC played against... I am gonna miss that : KOC.
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    That would be a hell of a move from the grave
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    Here are the real number values. Please note that this does NOT account for the moving up of a player from outside the top 51.

    Bruschi's cap hit was 1.9 Million in salary, 600K in signing bonus amortization and 107K in work out bonuses. His retiring leaves just the 707K in bonuses as a cap hit. So, a gross savings of 1.9 million.
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    And somehow, somewhere BriZ is shedding a tear right now...
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    Gross, of course. Per Miguel, the "Top 51" rule brings Wilhite's second-year salary ($385K) onto the cap.
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    The Patriots system doesn't work like that. In fact, its foolish to say that the scout who recommended him might be fired. Why? Well, first of all, after O'Connell was recommended by the Scout, he was worked out and interviewed by Josh McDaniels. Then, there were interviews by BB as well. And, to top it off, if a player didn't feel right to either Pioli or BB, he was taken off their draft board.

    So, while the scout may have recommended O'Connell, McDaniels (who is gone), Pioli (who is gone) and Belichick had more prominent roles in drafting O'Connell.. Are you saying the Pats will fire Belichick over this? I think not.
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    I assume he meant the scout that first recommended Brady to the coaches/FO, not the late Dick Rehbein.
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    Somehow I doubt it.
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    Good news on Ingram.

    So now most of us have 8 of 10 possible draft picks (+2 on PUP/IR) penciled in for the 53, plus a possible UDFA in Hoyer? That's tremendous on an already talented roster.
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    It's about stats for fans, so we have a hard time extrapolating how well a player did based on the level of opponent's play. For coaches it is about how the QB executes the offense as in makes the right reads and checkdowns and gets the ball where it is supposed to go. ANd how well a player takes coaching.
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    Re: O'Connell and Hodel released

    Made me laugh....thus a good joke.
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    Aloha, Hawaii. Congratulations on making the Team...
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    I'm sure you are being facetious, but I think it's at least fair to say that the Patriots have drafted some real clunkers in the third round under BB. O'Connell, Brock Williams, Guss Scott were unmitigated disasters. And would anyone be that surprised if Tate, McKenzie and Crable were all gone by 2010?
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