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    Great dinner theatre this evening. Anyone watching the local news was treated to Obama's little temper tantrum press conference. He did just about everything except stamp his feet.

    What tremendous leadership by the crackhead in chief.

    No Deal: Debt Ceiling Talks Between Obama, Boehner Break Down - The Note

    Talks between House Speaker John Boehner and President Obama to raise the debt ceiling in conjunction with sweeping spending cuts and tax and entitlement reform have broken down. There will be no "grand bargain" to deal with the debt crisis and raise the debt ceiling.

    Boehner's decision to abandon negotiations with President Obama puts an end to a deal that would have cut spending by up to $3.5 trillion over the next 10 years and increased tax revenues by close to a trillion dollars. But the $14.3 trillion debt ceiling must be raised by Aug. 2nd to avoid a government default.

    "We have now run out of time," a visibly angry Obama declared at a hastily arranged press conference in the White House briefing room.
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    Are you referring to the clip in your link or something he said before and/or after that clip?
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    He was off kilter... that was not a man in control.
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    He seemed to be unglued.
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    +1. I think it's the reaction of a man completely dumbfounded over the fact that a lot of charisma and great speaking ability does absolutely nothing to actually, like, you know, solve the economic problems we are experiencing.
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    I guess that community organizer experience did not prepare him for this. He said he could bring everyone together - he was supposed to be the great Uniter - Bush said that also - the more things change the more they stay the same. Bush also said he had experience bringing people together. Oh well - don't want to deflect - just wanted to vent a bit. :steamed::beatingcoming::steamed:
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    The house has already passed a resolution to raise the debt ceiling H Reid and the dems won't even allow a debate much less a vote to get members on the record.

    Obama and the dem Senate have no plan they are willing to put on paper the pubs have already passed a plan.

    This is why Obama is freaking out. The CNN poll shows that 66% like the ap, Cut and Balance plan.
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    What few sane republicans that are left in congress are being held hostage by the demented tea party followers.the average american is becoming skeptical of the right wings talk of tax cuts and austerity and sacrifice.because went the g.o.p. plan is scratched just below the surface,it is revealed that the tax cuts primarily are for the benefit of the high income people.

    It is time for the bush tax cuts for those upper income people to be sunseted.

    The president and the democrats need to stand firm on this issue.


    When Bush started class warfare by reducing taxes for the rich the economy started into a downward spiral, coincidence?? Many think not.. the super rich do not agree..
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    They handed this poor clown The White House on a silver platter now we all have to pay.

    I wonder if they have learned, will the fools do it again, probably.
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    No human walking this earth can "solve the economic problems we are experiencing"...

    So if that's what Americans are looking for, I will guarantee them it won't happen.

    If/When or economy turns around to true prosperity, it won't be due to a policy, but rather, balances being restored in the basic mechanisms of our economy.

    "Bad debt" will still take years to get off the balance books of corp's (financial) as well as in private homes. That being said, Obama has showed no sign of being a "get it done" leader who can bring both sides together.

    My grade so far for president Obama: C
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    The same tax rates that Obama agreed to extend through 2013?
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    Well then maybe Obama shouldn't have made that the central tenet of his entire campaign platform 3 years ago.

    No one human can singlehandedly fix our problems but (as much as it pains you to hear this) fact is that the President of the United States sets economic policy which either helps the situation or exacerbates it (especially when his own party control congress, as it did for Obama's first 2 years).

    And fact is there is absolutely no way anyone can impartially analyze 3 years worth of econnomic data under Obama and conclude that this administration has been anything other than a complete, abject failure.
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    That's not a nice way to describe your Republicans, harry. (But you're probably right this time.)
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    What upsets me about me about this is the "moving the goal post" issue. Obama said he didn't but if you listen closely he used weasel word to say that.

    Boehner on the other hand said clearly that Obama came in after a deal had been made and demanded $400B in additional taxes.

    I'd like to see the deal that they had "agreed" on the night before the last meeting. Let's see who is not telling the truth. Shouldn't be that hard because these all should be in writing. Let's have some of that transparency that we were promised.
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    It doesn't sound like an actual deal was ever struck, from what I saw and read.

    I wouldn't expect anything concrete in writing until it's complete, probably just notes -- notes that could reflect misunderstandings on either side. Additionally, "moving the goal posts," so to speak, could be perfectly fair in the course of ongoing negotiations on any remaining points. And that's without any bad faith negotiating by either side.
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    They should have this whole thing now out in the open so there can't be any conflicting stories. Remember when Obama said no more back room deals?

    He is the king of back room deals on the biggest issues like this and healthcare.
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    I don't think public negotiating is a good idea. It would discourage frank discussion and encourage grandstanding.

    (Public debate, otoh, is a very good idea -- though people would still be less than candid at times and grandstand at times.)
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    You'd all be frustrated too if you have to deal with 50 year old manchildren.....

    You have one side willing to compromise and other other side not willing to budge at all, the GOP is taking America hostage and they don't care! All the sheep that think this is good politics are fools!!! We send our rep's to do what's best for our country not what's best for them or their party!
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    You could just use quotation marks on that post and credit Obama.
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    Or its just the truth.....You can yell the sky is green all day, its still blue....:cool:

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