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Obama Wouldn't Be Where He Is But For Race

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  1. otis p. driftwood

    otis p. driftwood Rookie

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    http://www.charlotte.com/559/story/581394.html

    Guess it's okay for him to say it, huh?

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    #80 Jersey

    Yes. Yes it is.
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    Wildo7 Totally Full of It

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    Except Obama didn't start off with 90% of the black vote, Clinton did.
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    Of course the same thing is true for McCain. If he was black, he would not be the Republican nominee.
  5. otis p. driftwood

    otis p. driftwood Rookie

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    Odd that you'd go there.

    Not that long ago people were talking of drafting Condi Rice. Books were written, the question was posed to her on every one of the Sunday shows, until she said flatly she wasn't running, period.
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    ding ding ding!

    winner winner chicken dinner!

    If I could Fart money, I'd be rich!!!!!!



    seriously,

    Hillary Clinton wouldn't be where she is if she wasn't married to the president.

    John McCain wouldn't be where he is if he didn't change his views to be more conservative than when he was......a maverick.


    These predictions of things we will never know are nothing more than wheel spinning on the treadmill to oblivion.

    now, lets talk about topics, not unprovable futures and pasts.

    DUMB.
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    That's a little overdramatic. Somehow I doubt books were written specifically to pontificate the possibility of Condi running. And "every one of the Sunday shows?" LOL

    Regardless, Condi Rice wouldn't stand a chance. Her history of bullshyt lies and her piss-poor handling of pre 9/11 intel are very well-documented.

    She was smart to turn the speculation off early. Period.

    Speculation drummed up by chickenhawkish GOP think tanks, no doubt. They probably all sit at home and self-pleasure themselves to photos of Condi and Ann C each and every day.
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  8. otis p. driftwood

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    Here's one of them.

    http://www.amazon.com/Condi-vs-Hill...bbs_12?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208300962&sr=8-12
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    I've tried to figure out that comment each time that its been said. Let's review, Obama is white, but maintains all his other characteristics, schooling, and experience. Given that scenario, Obama would be haled as the next JFK and Clinton never gets past New Hampshire. Currently, the biggest obstacle in which Obama faces is his skin. That is what is reviewed during each state's primary, how many white votes did Obama receive. It is why he will not do well in some southern states. Actually, the statement is correct (Obama wouldn't be where he is but for race), he would already be the nominee and the election would go to him in a landslide.
  10. otis p. driftwood

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    My point with posting it was that this gentleman has not only said the same thing that caused poor Ms. Ferraro to be raked over the coals but forced out of her position in the HRC campaign, he also said she was right.

    So I'm curious about any potential outrage stemming from him saying it.
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    any outrage from these kinds of dumb remarks are more of the same....its really getting us nowhere.

    How the flunk can Bob Johnson or Geraldine Ferraro comment on a future in a different universe? You want me to comment on a comment about Dimensional Fiction?

    If John McCain was a chicken, could he run for president? If Clinton chose Minnie Mouse as her running mate would that change the outcome?

    you see where this is getting?

    Do you REALLY care about this? or is the potential of a bizzaro white Obama, from a different time and dimension a debatable topic, in your mind?
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    What's in my mind is that the white woman says it and is forced from her position and pilloried. A black man says it and it's "ho hum"...if McCain was a chicken he couldn't run for president.

    I thought I said this about 4 times already.
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    he totally couln't run, I agree. heck chickens can't even FLY for president let alone run.

    I just think its silly, this whole thing. I also think when Ferraro said it, it had not been said. Now that this guy is saying it, the debate in public opinion has happened. What do you want me to do, punch my compouter 'till my fists bleed and scream to the sky "WHYYYY???!!!!"

    ?



    The conlusion:

    If you say things like this, you are an IDIOT (Bob Johnson)
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    It's always silly. All of it. But each time you try to get by it, you have someone like Patters chiming in with his version of Republicans as the party of racists, despite the sheer numbers of people in his own party who're members of the KKK.
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    racism has no party
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    Which is why, when Patters says something like that, I find it offensive.
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    excellent post. spot on.
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    You really think Obama, as an unproven 2-3 year senator would do that well if he wasn't black?

    Why do you feel this way?
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    That white woman who said it was attempting to run for VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

    The black buisnessman who said it IS NOT.

    That's the difference, and it's a pretty significant one.
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    What? Based on what do you say Ferraro is attempting to run for VP?

    There's no way in hell HRC would pick a woman, certainly not one that was on one of the worst losing tickets ever.

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